RS on side of freeway(395 S) - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

BOO · 2007-11-15, 10:09 AM

southbound 395 over by the kietzke/virginia exit I saw a broken down 2.5 blue w/ black wheels. it had a red paper/sticker by the windshield and I thought I hope it doesnt get towed. I guess what I am trying to say is I was sad to see that.

JonnydaJibba · 2007-11-15, 10:11 AM

Thanks. =/

It will be getting towed soon.

Kevin M · 2007-11-15, 10:16 AM

What happened?

JonnydaJibba · 2007-11-15, 10:24 AM

I was just cruisin to work, in the slow lane and my car starts decelerating pretty quickly. The tach needle starts twitching as I slow down. I shifted down once and it did that fine, but nothing would happen when I gave it gas. Then it wouldn't start. I don't know what's wrong. I'm not really that much of a gearhead. Hopefully once we tow it here in a few minutes, we can figure out how bad it is or isn't.

cody · 2007-11-15, 10:42 AM

I'm sure you know, but just in case, make sure they use a flatbed to tow it.

Hope it's nothing expensive.

BOO · 2007-11-15, 11:10 AM

good I am glad it will be towed so nothing happens to it(ie.. vandalized overnight or gets hit)

MPREZIV · 2007-11-15, 12:28 PM

Cranking it, it seems like it may be down on compression... Cranks fast. Maybe timing belt issue... I haven't really had time to get deep into it, but I will this afternoon.

JonnydaJibba · 2007-11-15, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MPREZIV

Cranking it, it seems like it may be down on compression... Cranks fast. Maybe timing belt issue... I haven't really had time to get deep into it, but I will this afternoon.

Alright mang. I REALLY appreciate it.

Libila · 2007-11-15, 12:49 PM

I've got my fingers crossed and hoping it's nothing serious Jonny.

JonnydaJibba · 2007-11-15, 01:09 PM

Doesn't sound like it.

tysonK · 2007-11-15, 02:19 PM

STI swap!!

Sorry about the news btw.

MPREZIV · 2007-11-15, 03:27 PM

Looks like a timing belt issue. Compression in cylinder #2 is only 40psi... no bueno. Belt possibly jumped or lost a tooth or who knows... I'll find out soon! Gonna start tearing!

MPREZIV · 2007-11-15, 05:15 PM

WELL! Belt snapped! There's teeth missing from multiple spots around the belt, (which *could* be due to the gears flopping around on it after it lost tension) and burnt up belt residue all over the inside of the cover.

I'll slap a new belt and tensioner on there in the AM (checked all the other pulleys, everything looks/feels fine) and check everything out to make sure there's nothing else. Should be good tho.

ScottyS · 2007-11-15, 05:33 PM

Ow, no interference, I hope.

wrxkidid · 2007-11-15, 09:06 PM

Thats what I was thinking....*crosses findgers*

Libila · 2007-11-15, 10:47 PM

Sounds like good news Cory.

Hey Jonny, worst case scenrio, WRX swap?

Dean · 2007-11-15, 11:59 PM

I'm almost positive that is an interference engine... Only the pre-1997s SOHC engines were non-interference.

Hope it only skipped a couple teeth and nothing crashed into each other.

MPREZIV · 2007-11-16, 07:53 AM

See, I thought the phase 1 DOHC 2.5 was interference, and the phase 2 SOHC 2.5 was not. I'll be slaping a belt on it soon as it shows up, and rechecking comression to be sure everything's okay tho.

JonnydaJibba · 2007-11-16, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Libila

Sounds like good news Cory.

Hey Jonny, worst case scenrio, WRX swap?

Yes. There is a corner in the back of my mind that wants my motor to be done. I've got the NA bluuues.

Dean · 2007-11-16, 08:52 AM

I'm just going by Wikipedia... It may be wrong.

Quote:

The SOHC EJ Subaru boxer engines were non-interference engines through 1996, run by a single timing belt driving both cams (both sides of the engine) and the water pump. If the timing belt fails, the engine of the models up to 1996 will not be destroyed but re-timing is necessary, because they are non-interference engines. The oil pump is driven directly from the crank shaft and the waterpump by the timing belt. All DOHC and 1997-up SOHC EJ engines are interference engines, if the timing belt fails the engine will likely be destroyed or the valves & piston will be heavily damaged.

MPREZIV · 2007-11-16, 09:05 AM

Hmm... I'm not 100% positive either... I'll definitely be checking compression after I get it turning again.

Edit: Just heard back from Jeremy. He said it IS interference...

JonnydaJibba · 2007-11-16, 09:24 AM

WOW. So... that sounds like it's gonna suck.

MPREZIV · 2007-11-16, 09:37 AM

Jer said essentially, that he's seen his fair share of "lucky ones" that didn't have any engine damage with a broken belt, so it's worth putting on a new belt and checking the compression. If everything looks good, ship it! If there's valve damage, down there they usually just yank the heads and replace the valves, OR you could just get a whole new motor. Depends on which one turns out cheaper tho.

I just got the parts, so I'm gonna log off and slap her together real quick! I'll keep you updated!

BOO · 2007-11-16, 09:57 AM

You guys are scaring me, maybe I should get mine done too as I also have an 00 rs (for those of you who didnt know).

sperry · 2007-11-16, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MPREZIV

Jer said essentially, that he's seen his fair share of "lucky ones" that didn't have any engine damage with a broken belt, so it's worth putting on a new belt and checking the compression. If everything looks good, ship it! If there's valve damage, down there they usually just yank the heads and replace the valves, OR you could just get a whole new motor. Depends on which one turns out cheaper tho.

I just got the parts, so I'm gonna log off and slap her together real quick! I'll keep you updated!

Somehow, I've had one of those "lucky failures"... not that any failure is lucky, but I had the passenger intake cam sprocket bolt shear off and my motor grinded to a halt... no valve damage. The valves happened to snap shut on the intake cam, and everything else stayed timed until the motor stopped.

2007-11-15, 10:09 AM	#1
BOO EJ205 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, Nevada Posts: 2,076 Car: 12+tires Class: Spec. without hard work, nothing grows but weeds	RS on side of freeway(395 S) southbound 395 over by the kietzke/virginia exit I saw a broken down 2.5 blue w/ black wheels. it had a red paper/sticker by the windshield and I thought I hope it doesnt get towed. I guess what I am trying to say is I was sad to see that. __________________ LOL.. The other White Meat ... lol ------------------------------------------------ subaru(STi) is a boys car, mitsubishi(evo) is a man's car - Jeremy (Top Gear) GC,GD,GM

2007-11-15, 10:16 AM	#3
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	What happened? __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2007-11-15, 10:24 AM	#4
JonnydaJibba EJ207 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Reno/Sparks, Nevada Posts: 3,482 Car: 2000 2.5RS Class: RestNPeace Master Slurper.	I was just cruisin to work, in the slow lane and my car starts decelerating pretty quickly. The tach needle starts twitching as I slow down. I shifted down once and it did that fine, but nothing would happen when I gave it gas. Then it wouldn't start. I don't know what's wrong. I'm not really that much of a gearhead. Hopefully once we tow it here in a few minutes, we can figure out how bad it is or isn't. __________________ "Why do chicks tell you to call and then not answer....so gay." "Cuz girls are fags I dunno"

2007-11-15, 10:42 AM	#5
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	I'm sure you know, but just in case, make sure they use a flatbed to tow it. Hope it's nothing expensive. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2007-11-15, 11:10 AM	#6
BOO EJ205 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, Nevada Posts: 2,076 Car: 12+tires Class: Spec. without hard work, nothing grows but weeds	good I am glad it will be towed so nothing happens to it(ie.. vandalized overnight or gets hit) __________________ LOL.. The other White Meat ... lol ------------------------------------------------ subaru(STi) is a boys car, mitsubishi(evo) is a man's car - Jeremy (Top Gear) GC,GD,GM

2007-11-15, 10:11 AM	#2
JonnydaJibba EJ207 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Reno/Sparks, Nevada Posts: 3,482 Car: 2000 2.5RS Class: RestNPeace Master Slurper.	Thanks. =/ It will be getting towed soon. __________________ "Why do chicks tell you to call and then not answer....so gay." "Cuz girls are fags I dunno"

2007-11-15, 12:28 PM	#7
MPREZIV Token Real Name: Le Stig Afrique? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sitting next to a big yellow box Posts: 3,589 Car: 2001 Impreza 2.5 RS Class: 05 TDSP No, I won't work on your car. F your car*	Cranking it, it seems like it may be down on compression... Cranks fast. Maybe timing belt issue... I haven't really had time to get deep into it, but I will this afternoon. __________________ "...these condoms have a topical anesthetic to reduce sensitivity, so you can last longer. What a paradox. You can't feel a thing, but you can f*ck for HOURS..."

2007-11-15, 12:49 PM	#9
Libila EJ205 Real Name: Tim Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 1,384 Car: '94 L	I've got my fingers crossed and hoping it's nothing serious Jonny.

2007-11-15, 01:09 PM	#10
JonnydaJibba EJ207 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Reno/Sparks, Nevada Posts: 3,482 Car: 2000 2.5RS Class: RestNPeace Master Slurper.	Doesn't sound like it. __________________ "Why do chicks tell you to call and then not answer....so gay." "Cuz girls are fags I dunno"

2007-11-15, 02:19 PM	#11
tysonK warehouse SECCS Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SoCal... Posts: 6,253 Car: 04 Evo 99 Cadillac Class: street de le mod	STI swap!! Sorry about the news btw. __________________ Anjali? Anjali?

2007-11-15, 03:27 PM	#12
MPREZIV Token Real Name: Le Stig Afrique? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sitting next to a big yellow box Posts: 3,589 Car: 2001 Impreza 2.5 RS Class: 05 TDSP No, I won't work on your car. F your car*	Looks like a timing belt issue. Compression in cylinder #2 is only 40psi... no bueno. Belt possibly jumped or lost a tooth or who knows... I'll find out soon! Gonna start tearing! __________________ "...these condoms have a topical anesthetic to reduce sensitivity, so you can last longer. What a paradox. You can't feel a thing, but you can f*ck for HOURS..."

2007-11-15, 05:15 PM	#13
MPREZIV Token Real Name: Le Stig Afrique? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sitting next to a big yellow box Posts: 3,589 Car: 2001 Impreza 2.5 RS Class: 05 TDSP No, I won't work on your car. F your car*	WELL! Belt snapped! There's teeth missing from multiple spots around the belt, (which could be due to the gears flopping around on it after it lost tension) and burnt up belt residue all over the inside of the cover. I'll slap a new belt and tensioner on there in the AM (checked all the other pulleys, everything looks/feels fine) and check everything out to make sure there's nothing else. Should be good tho. __________________ "...these condoms have a topical anesthetic to reduce sensitivity, so you can last longer. What a paradox. You can't feel a thing, but you can f*ck for HOURS..."

2007-11-15, 05:33 PM	#14
ScottyS EJ205 Real Name: It is real! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: RNO Posts: 2,367 Car: 1998 Impreza Wagon, 1991 Legacy Turbo Sedan, 2003 Nissan Xterra Class: tvFree Yes, I'll fix it for you. Again.	Ow, no interference, I hope. __________________ "Trend Number One is that people aren't getting any smarter." Dogbert

2007-11-15, 09:06 PM	#15
wrxkidid EJ205 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Incline Village, NV Posts: 1,232 Car: 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee Ltd. 5.7l Class: None :/ Cory, just put a 4g63 in it.	Thats what I was thinking....crosses findgers __________________ Mosey down the road.

2007-11-15, 10:47 PM	#16
Libila EJ205 Real Name: Tim Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 1,384 Car: '94 L	Sounds like good news Cory. Hey Jonny, worst case scenrio, WRX swap?

2007-11-15, 11:59 PM	#17
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	I'm almost positive that is an interference engine... Only the pre-1997s SOHC engines were non-interference. Hope it only skipped a couple teeth and nothing crashed into each other. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2007-11-16, 07:53 AM	#18
MPREZIV Token Real Name: Le Stig Afrique? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sitting next to a big yellow box Posts: 3,589 Car: 2001 Impreza 2.5 RS Class: 05 TDSP No, I won't work on your car. F your car*	See, I thought the phase 1 DOHC 2.5 was interference, and the phase 2 SOHC 2.5 was not. I'll be slaping a belt on it soon as it shows up, and rechecking comression to be sure everything's okay tho. __________________ "...these condoms have a topical anesthetic to reduce sensitivity, so you can last longer. What a paradox. You can't feel a thing, but you can f*ck for HOURS..."

2007-11-16, 09:05 AM	#21
MPREZIV Token Real Name: Le Stig Afrique? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sitting next to a big yellow box Posts: 3,589 Car: 2001 Impreza 2.5 RS Class: 05 TDSP No, I won't work on your car. F your car*	Hmm... I'm not 100% positive either... I'll definitely be checking compression after I get it turning again. Edit: Just heard back from Jeremy. He said it IS interference... __________________ "...these condoms have a topical anesthetic to reduce sensitivity, so you can last longer. What a paradox. You can't feel a thing, but you can fck for HOURS..." Last edited by MPREZIV; 2007-11-16 at 09:15 AM.*

2007-11-16, 09:24 AM	#22
JonnydaJibba EJ207 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Reno/Sparks, Nevada Posts: 3,482 Car: 2000 2.5RS Class: RestNPeace Master Slurper.	WOW. So... that sounds like it's gonna suck. __________________ "Why do chicks tell you to call and then not answer....so gay." "Cuz girls are fags I dunno"

2007-11-16, 09:37 AM	#23
MPREZIV Token Real Name: Le Stig Afrique? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sitting next to a big yellow box Posts: 3,589 Car: 2001 Impreza 2.5 RS Class: 05 TDSP No, I won't work on your car. F your car*	Jer said essentially, that he's seen his fair share of "lucky ones" that didn't have any engine damage with a broken belt, so it's worth putting on a new belt and checking the compression. If everything looks good, ship it! If there's valve damage, down there they usually just yank the heads and replace the valves, OR you could just get a whole new motor. Depends on which one turns out cheaper tho. I just got the parts, so I'm gonna log off and slap her together real quick! I'll keep you updated! __________________ "...these condoms have a topical anesthetic to reduce sensitivity, so you can last longer. What a paradox. You can't feel a thing, but you can f*ck for HOURS..."

2007-11-16, 09:57 AM	#24
BOO EJ205 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, Nevada Posts: 2,076 Car: 12+tires Class: Spec. without hard work, nothing grows but weeds	You guys are scaring me, maybe I should get mine done too as I also have an 00 rs (for those of you who didnt know). __________________ LOL.. The other White Meat ... lol ------------------------------------------------ subaru(STi) is a boys car, mitsubishi(evo) is a man's car - Jeremy (Top Gear) GC,GD,GM

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