Yah, but it was all messed up on Colin. I'm 99% sure that the displays that represent brake and gas pedal application in GT4 move independently for me.

I know trail braking definately works for me.

I use the Logitech Driving Force Pro on my PS2, and I left foot brake a ton in GT4.

That lap was quick simply because I was able to keep my speed up pretty well in all the corners (especially the left-hander under the bridge onto the back straight). However, my line could have been improved upon in all the corners (especially the left-hander under the bridge onto the back straight). I ran a few more laps to see if I could best my time, and I think I was able to go through each corner faster than the ghost, but just not all on the same lap. I even had one where I was ahead into the final corner, but then got passed by the ghost right before the finish line (+0.002) :lol:.

Anyway, let me know if there are issues w/ the next challenge. The car is very "point and shoot" and easy to drive, except for it's ability to break traction easily on hard acceleration... since a lot of the corners at Monaco are very tight, keep in mind that short shifting for traction is probably a good idea in some spots.

That Lister is a howling banshee too. :devil:

http://kyoto.cool.ne.jp/yocchan7/gt_...a000826_14.jpg

^^^
That car looks sweet.

Trail braking != left foot braking. Although both techniques benefit from each other.

Left foot braking is simply using your left foot to brake with so you can simultaniously apply throttle. Trail braking is braking during/after turn-in to a corner, and can be very difficult/risky (at least in real life) because it's very easy to ask for too much from the tires to have the car turn and brake at the same time... i.e. you go for a nice spin.

Here's a cool write-up on trail braking, though it doesn't really talk too much about how to do it: http://www.getfaster.com/Techtips/Physics23.html

Aw, my bad. I thought trail braking was keeping some small degree of brake applied while accelerating out of the corner.

Aw, so it's steering and braking overlap going into a turn. Not throttle and brake overlap coming out. I see.

I don't think that could possibly make a car turn faster laps.

Maybe, just maybe, if it was for traction control. :lol:

I don't usually do it, but the M3 would plow sometimes and it seemed to help get the ass end around.

That car is quite a handful.... best I can do so far is a 1:30.450

Still need lots of practice.

Here's my best lap this evening..

1st post updated.

No wall riding added to rules.

Damn Sperry.... Its gonna take me a while to catch you!

I got 1'24.994 Wednesday night and there are many turns to get faster. Last night I can't get under 1'24 damn.

Yeah, 1'23's are certainly possible, and I think if you're ever able to take the big risks and really cut close to the walls w/o hitting them for a whole lap, 1'22's are a possibility.

How do you get the pictures you've taken on GT4 to your computer? Do I need to buy so stupid internet attachment?

Well, you can just use a digital camera and take a picture of the TV and attach it to the board. Or you can grab a TV capture card and capture stills and video of the laps, but that's bordering on overkill.

Something wrong now I can't get under 25 ??

Did you forget to bump the power, and lower the weight?

1'24.000 finally

Nice! Just make sure to get a screenshot up before 11:30.

Well, I still haven't run a totally clean lap... little mistakes are hard to avoid, simply because I'm too chickenshit once I've got a good 1st sector to really push it for the next two.

But, I'm shaving off a little here and there.

Okay, that was a pretty good lap. :)

I dont't worry about that because I know Sperry will do better, and he did.

That's what you get for "motivating" him. :P

Regardless, since Sperry made this challenge, he can't make the next so if you post a pic, you would get to make the next challenge. Could you get one up soon or should we just let Scott dictate the next challenge too?

Here is the picture. My turn thank you

Track: Next one Hong Kong Normal.
Car: Spoon S2000

Ummm... you didn't win dude. Scott ran a 1:23.6.

This car is a lot of fun...

I got 1:22.345 so far. Lots to improve on.

Survey says!

XXX

You can't dictate two Challenges in a row. Check the first post. :)

Well, he still didn't win! :p Maybe one of these days I'll start playing GT4 again, and I can come in second to Scott once or twice. :lol:

Dude, I totally heard the sound in my head when I saw that post.

Yah, but technically there should have only been one red X...ah I'm sure Kevin has been wrong a couple other times too. :P

First post updated.

You'd be owned by the post character limit. ;)

Good Fucking Lord Scott! That lap is just insane. :eek:

Did you have the driving aids on? You must have.

If we're doing Hong Kong, I've got a 1:20.741 after 20 laps.

Meh...good practice for Long Beach...

Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
www.teamSMR.com

Nope, driving aids slow the car down too much... just gotta LFB and be real smooth rolling on the throttle... which is useful on the track in real life too! :)

Then you're kicking ass Gary. :cool:

We are, indeed, doing Hong Kong. :|

I only got 1'21.003. Did you cut the curve or just hit the painted apex? I only cut 2 curves because they are flat.

i got my memory card back. woot! im going to go give this a whirl, logitec wheel still broke.

gt4 needs more cars. where is the e30 ///M3? ludicrous

Dude, GT3 didn't have an M3 of *any* generation.

i know.. im just saying, they need it, its a classic. bmw probably would rather have them have a 120 'd' and 'i' to generate interest, but im just bitter cause i love bmws quite a bit, and would have liked to see some e30s

i got a 1.24 after 6 laps staying well within the rumble strips...

It take me more than double ~50+ to get 1'20.703.

Ran about 30 laps...

http://videocodezone.com/videos/b/bi...th_myself.html ;)

I guess that means I'm picking the challenge again?

Citta di Aria
Pugeot 205 Turbo 16 Rally Car '85

It's time to get urban retro rally on that ass.

Edit: Given the tight nature of the course, times will *not* be disallowed for wall contact. Chances are if you hit a wall hard, it's gonna ruin your lap, if you hit the wall soft, it's not really gonna effect your lap times significantly positively.

Is this challenge thread dead? :(

I ran a 1'26.960 but didn't grab a screen shot, here's the cap of the replay menu... I can cap and upload the in-car video later.

You wanna take over for me Scott? I'm kinda burnt out.