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Dean 2006-01-06 10:09 AM

I hate you all. Remind me to kill you....

MattR 2006-01-06 10:11 AM

Sweet, I was looking for that rule about boost...Thanks Mike, I missed it somehow when I skimmed through.

So, My car is technically a BSP car now. Interesting. I'd prefer to run with everyone else though, in SM.

MikeK 2006-01-06 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Dean
I hate you all. Remind me to kill you....

You have to catch us first ... *snap*!

Dean 2006-01-06 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeK
You have to catch us first ... *snap*!

It's not a matter of catching you, it is a matter of waiting for you to catch up... :P

M3n2c3 2006-01-06 01:54 PM

That's ok, I'll be the one going, "hey guys, wait up!" :D

dknv 2006-01-06 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MattR
Matt- Sti
Eric- Sti
Mike K- Sti
Scott- FrankenSuby
Pete- WRX
Andy- WRX
Brian- STi


So yeah, it will be the most competitive class in 2006. I can guarantee that.

And that doesn't even include any properly-prepared SM BMW's who might show up. ;)

dknv 2006-01-06 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean
I hate you all. Remind me to kill you....

Pourquoi? Because of the free boost?

MattR 2006-01-06 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dknv
And that doesn't even include any properly-prepared SM BMW's who might show up. ;)

What do you know? haha. I know Jim Kunze in his M3 is also in SM, as is Vistor in his Mini. We're all screwed if someone decides to run a full season in a really prepped SM BMW.

Ezdno 2006-01-06 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by cody
RTFRB.

Definately the short answer here!

cody 2006-01-11 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean
ARGHHHHH Read teh bloody rules....

Solo
http://www.scca.org/_filelibrary/Fi..._solo_rules.pdf
GCR
http://www.scca.org/_FileLibrary/File/GCR2006.pdf

Batteries, and intake changes are allowed in SP, and always have been. More Boost is the primary change in SP this year.

Solo link is busted. Where can I find the rulebook?

MikeK 2006-01-11 02:10 PM

Solo rules

cody 2006-01-11 02:12 PM

Thank You!

cody 2006-02-15 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeK
So Cody, I think you might be in ESP.

After finally reading the rule rulebook, I think you're right (although I do plan to run in novice). The "E" in ESP refers to the fact that it's a WRX right? (page 166 of the SCCA Rulebook)

I'm just trying to get the hang of what the different letters stand for.

And we did decide modified boost is okay for Street Prepared right? Dean confused me on this the other day.

sperry 2006-02-15 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by cody
After finally reading the rule rulebook, I think you're right (although I do plan to run in novice). The "E" in ESP refers to the fact that it's a WRX right? (page 166 of the SCCA Rulebook)

I'm just trying to get the hang of what the different letters stand for.

And we did decide modified boost is okay for Street Prepared right? Dean confused me on this the other day.

The "E" is for "not A B C D or F". The letters are arbitrary. The 2.0L WRX just happens to be in ESP because ESP just happens to have the cars that the WRX is competative with... assuming it didn't get moved like the STI did after they opened up boost in Street Prepared.

Nick Koan 2006-02-15 11:01 AM

Yeah, thats E Street Prepared. So, check out the street prepared rules to find out if your mods are legal, then you look up what version of SP you are eligible for in your car (which, is E).

As for boost, modified boost is now allowable in ESP but the mods to attain the altered boost has to be legal (and remapping the ECU is an allowable way to do this). If I recall correctly, you can't alter the turbo in any fashion.

sperry 2006-02-15 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by nKoan
Yeah, thats E Street Prepared. So, check out the street prepared rules to find out if your mods are legal, then you look up what version of SP you are eligible for in your car (which, is E).

As for boost, modified boost is now allowable in ESP but the mods to attain the altered boost has to be legal (and remapping the ECU is an allowable way to do this). If I recall correctly, you can't alter the turbo in any fashion.

That's not entirely true. You can alter the turbo through use of holistic processes. I like to sweet talk my turbo and play happy music for it. I think I'm getting like 1 or 2 extra PSI out of it. :P

Nick Koan 2006-02-15 11:05 AM

God damnit. I thought I was all set for ESP, but I can't find the 05+ GT in the Street Prepared rules. I know the '05+ has it's own line in Stock, but I can't seem to find it in SP. I guess that means I can run FSP under the Subaru 4WD Turbo NOC. :p

Or, more realisticly I need to dig through new FasTracks.

cody 2006-02-15 11:06 AM

Thanks guys. I'm excited. :)

cody 2006-02-15 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by nKoan
God damnit. I thought I was all set for ESP, but I can't find the 05+ GT in the Street Prepared rules. I know the '05+ has it's own line in Stock, but I can't seem to find it in SP. I guess that means I can run FSP under the Subaru 4WD Turbo NOC. :p

Or, more realisticly I need to dig through new FasTracks.

Doesn't page 168 indicate you'd be in FSP? It says Legacy GT so I'd assume that means all years right?

Nick Koan 2006-02-15 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by cody
Doesn't page 168 indicate you'd be in FSP? It says Legacy GT so I'd assume that means all years right?

Well, I could run with that, but since the '05+ is drastically different power wise to previous GT's, it should be classed different. In fact, it is in Stock form (DS instead of HS) which leads me to believe this is a clerical error, and I'm probably in ESP like I was last year.

Dean 2006-02-15 12:22 PM

Maybe I'm blind, but I can't find anything that puts you anywhere other than FSP... 2.5 forester, yes, ESP, but nothing on the LGT 2.5T

Nick Koan 2006-02-15 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean
Maybe I'm blind, but I can't find anything that puts you anywhere other than FSP... 2.5 forester, yes, ESP, but nothing on the LGT 2.5T

I'll have to look, but I remember seeing a FasTrack from last year that put me in ESP.

cody 2006-03-19 08:44 PM

Would a taller hood scoop put you in a particular class?

Kevin M 2006-03-19 09:07 PM

Street Mod.

NevadaSTi 2006-03-19 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeK
Brian is still stock now, and I think he is only planning on a rear sway bar for autox, so STU or BSP. Brian?

Correct, I am still stock. Biggest problem I have is lack of money. :(

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Originally Posted by MattR
Sweet, I was looking for that rule about boost...Thanks Mike, I missed it somehow when I skimmed through.

So, My car is technically a BSP car now. Interesting. I'd prefer to run with everyone else though, in SM.

From my basic understanding of the rules, I would be running TBSP. So, I am fine with letting Matt run with the SM crowd. At least that way with my totally stock STi I can still be competitive.


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