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100_Percent_Juice 2009-04-13 10:54 AM

You have to be joking. I know that you are.

wildfirefli 2009-04-13 10:57 AM

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ScottyS 2009-04-13 11:22 AM

Sure there are "kids" out there that get off on killing. They exist in every society, some more than others.

True professionals, such as SEALs, usually have a level of self-control and intelligence way beyond the average ground-pounder for a reason. Their typical engagements with the enemy are not always filtered through electronic or long-range interfaces. These traits also allow them to see the ramifications of their own actions, trust me, they are not unthinking "killing machines". They do their duty, and don't talk about it.

sperry 2009-04-13 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by wildfirefli (Post 132123)
. It cracks me up! I bet they get pleasure from killing,knowing the world would be better without them. I bet it's a huge rush. I've met kids that after they kill, it's hard for them to stop. They all want to go back to war, and kill more. I'm sure you know so much. I'm sure you have killed someone. Shit I can't even step on a spider, I just think it would be SO cool to kill some bad guys. I wonder how they dispose of the bodies. Don't pirates like to be buried at sea? And how the hell did someones 16-18 year old little kid become a pirate?

Either you don't know what a Navy SEAL is, or you're trolling. Or both I guess. :rolleyes:

AtomicLabMonkey 2009-04-13 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by wildfirefli (Post 132123)
. It cracks me up! I bet they get pleasure from killing,knowing the world would be better without them. I bet it's a huge rush. I've met kids that after they kill, it's hard for them to stop. They all want to go back to war, and kill more. I'm sure you know so much. I'm sure you have killed someone. Shit I can't even step on a spider, I just think it would be SO cool to kill some bad guys. I wonder how they dispose of the bodies. Don't pirates like to be buried at sea? And how the hell did someones 16-18 year old little kid become a pirate?

Go take your meds.

wildfirefli 2009-04-13 01:11 PM

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wildfirefli 2009-04-13 01:12 PM

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sperry 2009-04-13 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by wildfirefli (Post 132138)
bwahaha.
I've met a few.
You guys know any? Personally?

Sure. You know "a few" Navy SEALs. And they love killing. There isn't a BS flag big enough to raise on that one.

wildfirefli 2009-04-13 04:33 PM

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sybir 2009-04-13 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by wildfirefli (Post 132168)
Notice you don't know any.

Notice once you're over 12 you don't go bragging about acquaintances in special ops because they don't generally like talking about it. I've got plenty of military buddies, and noone enjoys a kill; it's just a required part of the job sometimes.

sperry 2009-04-13 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by wildfirefli (Post 132168)
Notice you don't know any.

Really, how'd you notice that? 'Cause I remember not saying anything about who I know or don't know.

And I still contend you don't know any Navy SEALs that love with killing people. The psychos and posers don't make it through SEAL training.

GusGus91 2009-04-13 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean (Post 132073)
While I commend their skill and actions, I wonder why days ago they did not swim to the lifeboat at night, pump some sort of knock out gas into it and take the boat peacefully?

Because shooting 3 simultaneous headshots is more fun. and awesome!

:liljon:

ScottyS 2009-04-14 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by wildfirefli (Post 132174)
I used to be a military brat. You meet ALL kinds. Crazy stuff goes on there.

A lot of people "claim" SF because it's sexy. Most of the ones that have seen action as SF will not tell you, they will just say that they were in theatre. I guy I know from ST-5 is just getting on the beach after two years of work, it's gonna take him awhile to relax.

20psiMR 2009-04-14 08:46 AM

Me and Mary met one kid that claimed he was a seal out here in reno, but he was a wannabe. We later found out that he never was even in the Navy. I guess people in Reno just try to make up shit to be cool haha.

She does actually know a verified seal that I personally have met, one of her good friends in Vegas. I went through NJROTC so Im no dumbass, he showed me not only his trident but also has pictures of himself in training. He just couldnt tell me what team he is on, which he is actually not allowed to say. So she has merit to call you guys out actually, how many SEALS do YOU know?

Dean 2009-04-14 09:16 AM

He couldn't tell you much, but did he tell you killing was cool or fun?

cody 2009-04-14 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Dean (Post 132212)
He couldn't tell you much, but did he tell you killing was cool or fun?

There are more video games dedicated to it than any other activity...

100_Percent_Juice 2009-04-14 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by cody (Post 132215)
There are more video games dedicated to it than any other activity...

Yeah, video games are always true to life. :rolleyes:

cody 2009-04-14 09:55 AM

Didn't say they were. But you just go ahead keep rolling those eyes since they aren't connected to anything. ;)

100_Percent_Juice 2009-04-14 10:31 AM

So what did your post mean?

cody 2009-04-14 10:48 AM

Killing=cool or fun. At least on some level for some people.

100_Percent_Juice 2009-04-14 10:56 AM

Are you saying its cool and fun in video games or real life? By your saying that its fun in video games must mean that you think video games are exactly like real life thus making killing a blast in real life.

cody 2009-04-14 11:07 AM

No, my point is that, if killing weren't fun on some level, it wouldn't be the most popular genre of video game.

wildfirefli 2009-04-14 11:33 AM

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MattR 2009-04-14 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by AtomicLabMonkey (Post 132107)
Well, personally I would argue that they are not terrorists; their motivation is money, plain and simple. Shipping lines have been regularly paying them ransom for years now when they jack ships, so to the pirates it's just a business. Terrorism on the other hand is violence by non-state actors to achieve political goals. This has nothing to do with politics.

And the piracy "bubble" is far from being burst. The only way it will stop is if the boats they send out of port are regularly sunk, or if they are attacked and dispersed on land. Or some combination of the two. The shipping lines have been very reticent about putting armed security teams on their ships, even when this problem has been going on for years. They'd apparently rather just pay ransom for the small percentage of ships that get jacked, as an additional cost of doing business.

Those guys got what they deserved, though. Very impressive action by the SEALs, especially from a floating platform where a small deck pitch could throw off your shot by feet.


I agree with you Austin, and would add my own piece...My disappointment with this entire scenario was that we were slow to act. We actually gave these "pirates" (who are the filth of this earth and should be obliterated) the belief that they had a leg to stand on and negotiate with the US. We have not and should not negotiate with Pirates/ terrorists...when we do, it lessens our strength and opens the door for future lunatics to try their luck bargaining with the US. I would have much preferred that we strike immediately and resolve the issue on our terms. I personally disagree with our tactics, and the direction our President has given throughout this event. He's confirmed my belief that our Commander in Chief is weak and submissive. He hasn't even made an attempt to show that this type of action is unacceptable, he's been invisible throughout. There is a reason that no American Ship has been seized since the early 1900's, because the US carries respect and the notion existed that there will be consequences to hostile actions. I'm not so sure these groups are afraid of consequences when we spend 5 days sitting on our hands waiting to negotiate this captain's release.

When you say, "The only way it will stop is if the boats they send out of port are regularly sunk, or if they are attacked and dispersed on land" I fully agree. I believe that the only way to really make an impact is to go up and down the Somali coast and destroy these pirates. Today they have announced they will increase their attacks on American ships, why we haven't seized this opportunity to destroy these bands is beyond me, but this problem will not go away on its own.

If you have any doubts about the type of people these pirates are...Do you know what the Maersk Alabama was loaded with? Containers full of medical and food relief and Aid from the US/ UN destined for Uganda and Somalia. These scumbags are trying to interfere with relief aid for their own people, for ransom money to go into their own pockets. The US does have the ability to wipe this dirt from the earth, but we wont. I wonder what will happen when they succeed taking over a cruise ship and killing innocent passengers...It can happen.


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