No rear, front should be a 17 mm. At the time i disconnected the bar i was at a 2day RallyX event and hit a finishing cone on day one to put me 10 seconds out of 3rd and i felt the urge to get experimental. (and ya it sucked)

the LS came with a rear and got a 19mm front So I could just changing the front bar.

... the over-ride :eek: Uhm now that you mention it i don't think i've checked that...

An extra 2mm front would probably not hurt, even in the dirt. Take a 1/2 to 1 degree negative out of the rear should help.

I told you to check that at the end of post #7. ;)

checked that out finally. no luck . :( the car is in Ansels shop getting something done about the holes in my floor and i'm getting 4 more bars added to the roll cage. (weren't required in 08, and i'm grand fathered in anyways, but probably a good idea to add them in ) :D

so dean i should go more towards positive camber in the rear? or more negative?

More positive I am guessing. -2 is a lot for the light rear end and may be reducing traction. If you are not beating up the outside shoulder/sidewall, try flattening it. A non-driven wheel on a loose surface needs as much contact patch as possible since I assume it is not rolling over.

Try -1, or bring it down 1/2 a degree at a time until it gets worse and go back. You may find 0 to -1/2 may be best. Again, I am not a dirt driver, so this is all theory. YMMV NWEOI