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Anyone else interested? Now is the time to show up.

go to www.renorally.com and click on the volunteers link.

Yep I plan on going :)

Did you fill out the Volunteer form?

yes the one on renorally.com

I will be wearing signifigantly more layers this year.

How cold was last year's rally? are you going to dress as if you were going snowboarding basically ? or don't quite go to that extreme ?

:) will be fun to see you out there !

Last year I was wearing jeans w/ thermals, and my snowboarding jacket.

It was very brisk and a tad breezy. So I'd suggest preparing for the coldest it can be just in case, then shed layers as needed.

good thinking. I'll dress just below what i would for snowboarding and shed layers as needed. I'll avoid trimming back on the beard too just in case ;)

You'll want to dress warmer than for snowboarding, because you aren't going to be moving around and generating heat nearly as much.

Sombody say snowboarding?

snowboarding !

Yes you do a lot more moving around while snowboarding, and that keeps you Much warmer then standing still. I'm still guessing with wind chills it should be a good 20-30 F Warmer down at the rally then say riding up chair 10 at Kirkwood. snowboarding on a day that's NASTY I generally only wear long johns, snow pants, a long sleeve shirt, my ski jacket shell, helmet + neck warmer. and even then i generally end up over heating.

I'll just bring excessive clothes and if I'm suprized that its as cold or colder then snowboarding i'll be ready. and if i'm right that snowboarding is colder, i'll have a pile of extra clothes next to me .

:)

Weak! Only 1 stage out of the planned 8 stages ended up running :eek:

At least we this year I got on a finish control team, which meant I got to drive down the stage. In fact, I got just about as much stage time as the competitors :lol:

It was still kind of fun being out there, but man was the organization just plain screwed up this year.

Outstanding, What the hell was the reason this time?

What happen? why only 1? I guess that the end of Rally here :(

Well, first off, Hackett screwed up the permits and forgot parts that were specifically mentioned (like bringing back boards) so we started like 3 hours late. They ran the first stage, which I was at at the end of, and sent the cars on transit to stage two (which was only a 1/2 mile away). Well, the second stage wasn't clear and the cars just sat there for a while.

So, as the sun was going down, the decision was made to run stage 6 which was just stage one in reverse (and then 1 and 6 again, just back and forth on the one stage I was working). So we hurried to get setup for a start and sent the first car through around 5:30, and then we got word that first few cars though ended up finding civilian cars going the opposite direction of the competition. From there, the stage had to be stopped and everyone was asked to just run the stage as transit. When all the cars got to the end of the stage, they just ended up canceling the rest of the event because it was getting cold fast. We left somewhere between 6 and 7, and it was about 19 degrees out there, according to the clock we had with a temperature sensor.

What's worse about the permit snafu, is that we were delayed due to the exact same reasons as last year. The control captains didn't have a copy of the permit (Hacket did, be he wasn't at the start of the rally) and the EMTs didn't have back boards. They said they didn't know they were necessary but the BLM ranger said it was spelled out explicitly in the permit. So, whoever dealt with the permits (probably Hackett again) forgot to mention it to the EMTs. The EMTs had to split up and one went to Gerlach and one to Nixon to try and find a backboard. Finally found one after 2+ hours or so, and that's what caused us to start 3 hours late.

Even though last year went relatively smooth, you could see that this event was happening despite Dave Hackett's poor coordination. This year, though, it was a different story when his laziness ended up biting everyone in the ass. After last year, I told myself I wouldn't work an event with him ever again, but I figured the rally stood a good chance of working again this year, despite Hackett.

I felt bad for the competitors most of all. We were at least dressed for the conditions, whereas they had to sit in rapidly dropping conditions too, but in fire suits and they couldn't really sit in their cars and burn fuel in idle to run the heaters. And they paid money too, which I don't think can be refunded, to run one stage. Hell, I ran that one stage too, close to my limit (which is no where near their's), but I didn't pay a dime. :lol:

All in all, we had some good times still just kind of hanging out, but it just sucks that only one stage was really run.

Dave Hackett is a lot of talk with little or no results. He's been trying to get ANY kind of rallying going in this area for two decades with little to no success. He's also the guy Scott and I talked to about helping to get a rallycross program off the ground, you can guess how that went.

Anyway, I feel bad for all the workers and teams who went to all the trouble to get here to waste away their day. what a joke.

Oh, on the bright side, Hackett is now running/ part of the training school at Reno Fernley so we can all look forward to similar planning and organization.

Yeah, I'm not impressed with that guy at all. Between this year and last, I think I've had my fill. I'd still volunteer again, cause I had fun just bullshitting with other people while we were standing around, but I'd be very surprised if we had a smooth event next year (if at all).

my favorite part was the car ramp and duct tape solution.

Oh shoot... I was plan on doing that next year at RFR.

One response I found over at specialstage.com

Wow that sucks. Well I would have been there, but the company i work for sent me out of town on a rather surprise business trip to Atlanta, GA. (Now they want me to move to Atlanta, GA i need to decide with in 3 weeks of them asking me ... (WTF)) *back on topic*

Its very unfortunate that the rally was ran like that.

and on a side note a rallyX program up here would rule ...

I'm really glad I didn't volunteer this year.

I thought you were suppose to bring the backboards this year!!1!wtf!

MattR and I went as far as talking with Rich Cable to get RFR to plan to grade their ATV/motocross course for rallycross use. Unfortunately, at the time there were maybe 5 people in Reno interested in Rally. You'd make 6.

Since then Matt and I have both lost interest (partially because our cars are setup for autocross/road-race and would be destroyed by anything off-road), and RFR's being run by Jeremy Cable who was never in on the rally planning loop. And since RenoSCCA has since moved forward w/ the Time Trials/Road Race program, there's just no manpower or resources available for a third race program in the region. Reno RallyX is good and dead IMO. :(

Biscuit would be 7th , which is well short of 30 or how ever many people would be needed.

Dead before it gets off the ground. Sad, we are in such a great area for it (lots of dirt around here) and yet not enough local interest, With the Xgames last year i'm sure a few more people are interested now. slight chance i could leverage ridelaketahoe.com to find a few more people (I definitely could put ads up there , but we mostly get out of area web surfers). Maybe (me) buying an add in the reno news paper. (assuming the types that like to drive off road read the news paper on a regular basis)

I know if we were able to include some snow-events that the SFR RallyX group would come up. I've been trying to help them find a suitable location to hold a snow rally at. OR if we include the events in the CRS ( California Rally Series) , or got one included in the National Rallyx program . that could be used to get a great turn out at 3+ events, and then just hope there is enough return interest.


But if you (with experience organizing events) can't get it off the ground then I'm sure you're right. I lack the experience to attempt to organize such a thing, (and possibly even the maturity) and may be forced to leave the area on top of all that. Still a bit sad though :( (esp considering our area / and car types) There is always driving down to SF for rallyx .. :)

Oh also , From what fellow Rally crossers have told me (the ones who also drive in full stage rallies) Rally Tires can actually Freeze , and the range of rally tires offered by some manufacturers don't include a 'snow rally tire' at all. The very limited searching i've done for rally tires has shown that to be true. (I believe his name is Mike, he runs SWRallyX.com) was telling me how at a rally he attended in Oregon , the winner in Open AWD was just using Snowtires and was far far ahead of others using various Dirt oriented rally tires. So a Subaru with Snow tires may have been more likely to make that transition drive then a Subaru with Rally tires, as odd as that initially sounds.

count me in too. and i have two friends that have wanted to go to a thunder hill rally cross with me(in their own car). and i saw a couple other voulenteers at the reno rally that also rally crossed with the bay area region. even though it may be dead, i thought i'd mention just for the record.

oh wow i type slow. alex got in there and added me for me.

It's too bad this enthusiasm wasn't around 3 or 4 years ago when Matt and I started looking into to rallycross. 'Course even then, I don't think we'd have been able to pull it off. So much work goes into running a well established series like Reno's Solo program that the few of us couldn't even run that, let alone the work it takes to get a completely new program off the ground.

Plus, like I said earlier, I'm not interested any longer. My car's gone the road-race route, and I really enjoy that. I don't have the time or money to try to campaign a rally car as well, even if we made it a winter/off-season series.

This thread is not intended to be a discussion about interest in getting a rallyx program going. If it's something you want to pursue, you will need to take it upon yourself to spearhead the operation, I did it once, and it went no where, mostly due to lack of interest and resources.