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They will all get you to where you want to go, so in that regard only, there's no car that's better than any other car; unless you start assigning value to what you find important in your personal transportation. Do you value fuel economy? Do you value 0-60, 1/4 mile, cornering ability, stopping ability? Some cars are going to better than others at what you value. So will a Camry stop from 140mph as quickly and as stable as a purpose built sports car? Probably not, so the sports car is better in that regard and many others in my personal value system. A Camry at 140 mph isn't going to be as stable as a GT-R, so the GT-R is better in regards to high speed stability. And if you've driven those speeds, then you are aware that the difference from 140mph to 180mph is HUGE! Moot point here in the land of 65. Why do you drive a Subaru? Why don't you drive an SRT-4? Evidently there's something in the Subaru that you assign more value to? Something that you like "better" than a camry? |
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I think I know which $80K car I'd rather have. :P |
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That car is insane. I wonder though if I had another 200hp and 1000 less weight if it'd still be faster than me... it should be, simply due to having better suspension geometry and weight distribution, but it'd be a fun race. |
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It started life as a run of the mill 1977-78 (can't remember the exact year) 911. He then changed the body to the 993 look and then started dabbling in changing body parts over to Carbon. It survived the last big flood, barely... and then he added the turbo. That car is nowhere near $180,000. He might be around $50K into that car, and that's pushing it. Doing what he does for a living, he was able to do a lot for a little. Ever seen Matt's car (Owner of Sport Haus), that 911 makes Duck's look slow. Duck is a crazy little dude... way cool. |
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You know what's really great about the GTR?
Nissan OF Reno will never see one! Haha |
im over it.
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0-60: 3.3s
1/4 mile: 11.6s @ 120.9mph ...and that's by EDMUNDS. It's no track prepped Miata and Camry though. http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...hotopanel..1.* |
Cobb has a GT-R in their possesion as we speak!
http://blogs.cobbtuning.com/?p=205 http://forums.cobbtuning.com/projects/GTR/GTR1.jpg This "Do not rice out your GT-R" illustration from the JDM manual is priceless: http://blogs.cobbtuning.com/wp-conte...35_manual4.JPG |
Oh Noez, Tlain Conductoll-san! Preaze not hit my GT-aRl!
http://blogs.cobbtuning.com/wp-conte...35_manual2.JPG |
Push that shiz out of the way Dood!!!
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Is he holding a flare gun?
"I don't really like to talk about my flare guns." |
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400+ AWHP on a Mustang Dyno right out of the box without even breaking it in.
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Matt did all the suspension work on my car. |
AOTS had a segment tonight on the GT-R at RFR! Should be on-line later.
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Someone has a red one and was driving it two weeks ago. march 31st i do believe. I was driving up mt rose , got up past the peek. you have a right hander around the peek. a slight jog left, passing zone 1, a slight increase in the grade of the road and a jog right than left, passing zone 2 . then back to double yellow. a bit of a down hill (think there's 3 more passing zones)
Well behind passing zone 4 and the final one i saw some UBER New looking red car, pulled over on the side of the road. but pulled against the snow bank in a way he would have to back out to leave. like he was off snow shoeing or what ever. well about 2-3 seconds later that same car is passing me and 6 or 7 other cars in Double yellow zone. with an oncoming car just in sight. :mad: :mad: WTF Jebus Christ dude!!! I got a very clear look at a Nissan GT-R badge on the right side of his rear end. yep it's a GT-R allright. when we got to the last passing zone he pulled over on the side of the road and parks. I was tempted to pull over, tell him he's an asshat and get back on my way. but with an hour commute i just want to get home. It's probably the owner of a dealership or something... anywho :P |
You should have done a massive power slide next to him and kicked rocks all over the place.
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http://www.seccs.org/forums/showthread.php?t=6752 http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/04/f...9-nissan-gt-r/ http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.au...t-r_450-op.jpg |
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A GTR blew my doors off on the freeway a few minutes ago. It was beautiful... |
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I understand the cold comment...but water :huh:
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Reference to Top Gear shown on BBC a few days ago.
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The GT-R is a world beater. Porsche, Ferrari, Lambo, Corvette... they're all going to have to either go twice as fast, or cut their prices by 50% to compete. |
Yep that was the red one that blew by me. It looked like he was probably just playing around on that part of 431. A very sick car!
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Unless that was pure sarcasm, and I missed it. |
I saw them all parked up here yesterday morning while i was at work.... silver, white, blue and red. It was pretty sweet seeing them all out in front of the hyatt
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Much like the WRX/STi raised the bar for ~$30k sports cars, the GT-R is doing the same for the $80K level. For example, the STi at $30k performed like $60k cars when it came out. Now the GT-R is whooping up on cars like Ferraris and Porsche Turbos that cost $160k. |
I'm with Tyson, in the "but you're still driving a Nissan" boat.
In my opinion, Nissan hasn't really built many vehicles lately, without running into a TON of stupid ass, "we under-engineered this" problems. Even the vehicles built in Japan, that most people would swear are better built, have BUMBASS issues. Z cars with fuel/vapor hoses that dry-rot and dump out fuel within 3k miles, Muranos with t-cases splitting clean in half, and transmissions that won't make it to your 30k service. I know every manufacturer has it's issues, so to speak, but I really don't think Nissan's made a decent vehilcle in at least 4 years. When they did make good cars, they were boring 2.4L Altimas, average (in terms of interest) Maximas, and trucks that hadn't seen a redesign in YEARS. They were all AWESOME in terms of reliability and serving their purpose, but nobody gave a shit about them, and Nissan struggled. Now they're coming out with all new and redesigned vehicles that are eye-catching and look GREAT on paper, but they can't seem to deliver in the reliability dept. any more. I really hope people who pay likely around 100K for a GTR, (after dealers mark them up, which they WILL) don't find themselves fighting for "lemon law" to buy that shit back, but I won't be surprised if it happens. |
I look at the GT-R the same way as I look at the Vette. I'd rather punch myself in the balls than buy a Chevy, but I'd rock a Vette... it's not really built by the same company that builds the crap like the Cobalt and Equinox.
The GT-R, being hand-built and somewhat of a special project, can't possibly be as bad as all the Renault polluted mass production Nissans. Plus, since it's such a low production car, I doubt they're cutting corners the way they do to on stuff like Altimas and Maximas to increase profits. |
Sorry but I would definitely rock this "just a Nissan" but if this new GTR is anything like the old R33 or R34 I'd say that you are getting so much more than a Nissan.
http://www.moruk.org/tomofil/wp-cont...r-z-tune-1.jpg http://www.moruk.org/tomofil/wp-cont...r-z-tune-2.jpg |
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for the record. |
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"My car runs under 8 min at the fucking Nurburgring"
and "I drive a fucking Ferrari" One of these has more impact to society at large. |
"More than you can afford pal. Under 8 minutes at the 'Ring."
Yeah, Tyson's got a point. |
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I quoted FnF. I'm original.
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"Just a Nissan" or not, it's smoking much more expensive cars around tracks.
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