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van 2009-12-01 04:20 AM

Is Dean laughing at me for being too cheap?

Dean 2009-12-01 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by van (Post 142666)
Is Dean laughing at me for being too cheap?

More for being unrealistic.

cody 2009-12-01 09:32 AM

What do you intend to use the NAS for?

van 2009-12-01 09:37 AM

Porn
















and to share pictures, music, etc with my wifes laptop without having to use thumb drives.

Dean 2009-12-01 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by van (Post 142669)
Porn and to share pictures, music, etc with my wifes laptop without having to use thumb drives.

Didn't you just get a large HD? Just share it and she can access it just like a NAS. I can help if you need it.

cody 2009-12-01 09:52 AM

Well, duh. :P But are you going to connect it to your wireless router or something?

Cheaper alternatives (assuming preexisting equipment) to a NAS would be:

1. An external HDD that you connect to one laptop at a time.
2. An external HDD that you connect to a wireless router with a USB port ("NAS ready router")
3. A computer networked to your router to function as a file server

Option 3 covers many configurations including simply networking the computers together. If they share the same router and they're all Windows, you can share folders (or entire hard drives, exernal or internal) on each computer and keep all the files you might like to share in those shared folders. If you have enough HDD space, you can even back up to eachother's computers over the network. You can stream video from one computer to the other, etc.

Just making sure you really need a NAS. :)

ScottyS 2009-12-01 10:01 AM

A true NAS is really almost over-complicating things unless there is a dire need for real-time redundancy and several different people that will be working off of it.

The router with a USB is probably the best way to go, and hopefully would have the highest access speed. Simple is good on the home network.

Dean 2009-12-01 10:11 AM

USB is slow, and router HW is typically slow as well. Share an internal or eSATA drive from a PC should be much faster, even an older IDE desktop drive will outperform a USB router drive.

sperry 2009-12-01 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Dean (Post 142675)
USB is slow, and router HW is typically slow as well. Share an internal or eSATA drive from a PC should be much faster, even an older IDE desktop drive will outperform a USB router drive.

USB is certainly not too slow if they're just using it for sharing pictures and MP3s or something. It's not like they're booting windows off it.

Plus using the router as their NAS means they can turn off their PCs when not in use instead of leaving one on all the time as the file-share.

cody 2009-12-01 10:56 AM

I believe that USB2 will not bottleneck 802.11G or fast ethernet (100MBps). However, it will bottleneck gigabyte ethernet (1000MBps) (as most IDE drives even bottleneck gigabyte) and possibly 802.11 Draft N. Not a deal breaker, just something to consider. G is plenty fast to share pics, music, and even most video.

Dean 2009-12-01 11:17 AM

Good points. USB and router HW are only slow relatively speaking for local or Gb wired access really, though I have seen slow performance from similar drives when shared USB vs. IDE/SATA disks on the same system. Wireless to a notebook, there should be no difference.

I'd just hate to see somebody buy a USB enabled router or a NAS if they already have a desktop that is on most of the time.

van 2009-12-01 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by cody (Post 142671)
2. An external HDD that you connect to a wireless router with a USB port ("NAS ready router")

I want to do this, will google when I get home.
I'm sure I can get an external HD for <$100.

cody 2009-12-01 11:51 AM

That's a great way to go (for previously stated reasons), but only a few specific routers have that feature.

van 2009-12-01 11:55 AM

I have this
http://www.netgear.com/Products/Rout...Specifications

cody 2009-12-01 12:02 PM

That router does not appear to have the external HDD functionality. You can shop for a new one that does and sell that one (or maybe use it as a wirless bridge to connect your PS3 wirelessly and get a faster connection for things like streaming video from Tversity, etc.) or just get the NAS if you don't like the simple Workgroup file sharing idea.

Dean 2009-12-01 12:07 PM

Found a NAS enclosure that is good to at least a 750GB drive for only $30. Might be way cheaper than a USB router.

http://www.pacificgeek.com/product.a...&ID=106473&P=F

Otherwise they are up in the $60 range which is why I laughed in the first place for on with a drive for $80.

Dean 2009-12-01 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by van (Post 142684)

Doesn't look like it has USB... :(

cody 2009-12-01 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean (Post 142688)
Found a NAS enclosure that is good to at least a 750GB drive for only $30. Might be way cheaper than a USB router.

http://www.pacificgeek.com/product.a...&ID=106473&P=F

Otherwise they are up in the $60 range which is why I laughed in the first place for on with a drive for $80.

Sweet Deal! It's even gigabit and SATA. That won't be any faster than megabit connected to Van's specific router, but it's still sweet.

sperry 2009-12-01 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean (Post 142688)
Found a NAS enclosure that is good to at least a 750GB drive for only $30. Might be way cheaper than a USB router.

http://www.pacificgeek.com/product.a...&ID=106473&P=F

Otherwise they are up in the $60 range which is why I laughed in the first place for on with a drive for $80.

Quote:

Sorry, this product is no longer available.
But tell Us How Many You Need and We will try to find this sold out product!
Awesome deal! $30.99 for something that doesn't exist anymore! :P

Dean 2009-12-01 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry (Post 142705)
Awesome deal! $30.99 for something that doesn't exist anymore! :P

I swear it wasn't when I linked to it.

Oh well, back to the $60 range unfortunately.

Dean 2009-12-01 06:27 PM

You can go crazy bidding on different ebay options, or Buy it Now...

IDE drive NAS case $33

Dual IDE NAS case $35

There are also a number of twin port USB<->Ethernet adapters which claim to support NAS functions for around $40.

khail19 2009-12-01 06:30 PM

I just bought a 250 gb Hitachi USB external drive at Costco for $40. http://www.amazon.com/Hitachi-SimpleDrive-Portable-SDM-250RW/dp/B002CMEIUM If you need more space they had other drives for $60 and up.

Edit: Sorry, I missed the part about your router not having USB.

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For some reason I found this very amusing...

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sybir 2009-12-04 07:45 AM

OK, Screech :p

cody 2009-12-07 11:32 AM

Polk Audio DB651 6.5-Inch Car Speakers $34.99/pair + FS


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