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sperry 2006-01-13 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by doubleurx
My Brain!

I went home that night for some reason thinking it was Seca. It did surpirse me that in less than an hour I could get 2 seconds on you guys. I only got a couple runs on Infineon which I rarely play on, but was able to get a 127.8XX with the stock car.

I can see it at the next track day. Me standing at RFR listening to a bunch of crickets. Meanwhile you guys standing in the Thunderhill paddock - "wasn't Nick supposed to be here today".

Man, I'm still laughing... I spent like 3 hours after I saw your time trying like 30 different lines through the esses trying to make up 2 seconds. :lol: I think I shaved off like 2 tenths. :lol:

But now that we're on to the new rules, those 1'27's aren't gonna cut it. I think the winner of this challenge will be in the low 1'22's. The car is actually quite a bit harder to drive with the extra power and lower weight... not so much due to the power, but more due to the higher speeds in the corners. The esses used to be a simple foot-on-the-floor ride, but now you're carrying so much more speed, you have to really nail the turn in points to be able to stay ahead of the turns and flat foot it. And I've found that the last sweeper before the hairpin really needs a tap of the left-foot to turn in hard enough to keep the speed up. Just getting that one turn right or wrong can swing my lap times by 2 or 3 tenths!

Anyway, I hope to see some more lap times from you guys soon, I need some motivation to get my times down. :devil:

doubleurx 2006-01-13 11:41 AM

Sorry about that Scott.

Are you adjusting the cars speed (which changes the gearing) that may help you on those turns.

sperry 2006-01-13 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by doubleurx
Sorry about that Scott.

Are you adjusting the cars speed (which changes the gearing) that may help you on those turns.

I went the traditional route of picking a top gear speed that matches the top speed I'm actually seeing on track, which IIRC is the 260kph setting (two clicks left of default).

The problem is that T2 is now two downshifts instead of 1 which makes the corner a little harder (plus the higher entry speed up the hill moves the braking point earlier so you have to trail brake in). Also the esses require a shift to 6th inbetween the 2nd left and 2nd right. But the carousel is now in a better rev range in 4th than it was previously, and the two hairpins are now 3rd gear turns instead of 2nd. So overall I think the gearing is better a little shorter.

bemani 2006-01-13 11:50 AM

3 hours? Damn you're hardcore.

MPREZIV 2006-01-13 11:58 AM

Dammit. I finally find a group of people who are as willing to waste time perfecting a video game as I am, and everyone's playing a game I don't have on a system I don't have.

shit

sperry 2006-01-13 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by bemani
3 hours? Damn you're hardcore.

Ever since I whacked my head on a shelf in my parent's garage over Xmas, I haven't been able to sleep. Even with a dose of Tylenol PM in me, I can't get to sleep before 2am. Hell, last night I was up until 5:30 or so in the morning just laying in bed awake.

So I figure, I might as well play some GT. :lol:

MattR 2006-01-13 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry
Ever since I whacked my head on a shelf in my parent's garage over Xmas, I haven't been able to sleep. Even with a dose of Tylenol PM in me, I can't get to sleep before 2am. Hell, last night I was up until 5:30 or so in the morning just laying in bed awake.

So I figure, I might as well play some GT. :lol:

Less Crack.

sperry 2006-01-13 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MPREZIV
Dammit. I finally find a group of people who are as willing to waste time perfecting a video game as I am, and everyone's playing a game I don't have on a system I don't have.

shit

I'll sell you my old PS2 on the super-cheap... but you're gonna have to get your own copy of the game and hope the CD drive doesn't try to scratch it like it did to my copy.

...but hey, cheap PS2, and it's got the network card, so you can pretty easily mod it w/ a hard drive in which case the intermittant issues w/ the CD drive aren't a big deal.

Wait, WTH aren't I modding it, hard drive load times are like 100 times faster than the CD... :?:

sperry 2006-01-13 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MattR
Less Crack.

Seriously... I think I fucked something up... I can't fall asleep anymore, and once I do I wake up often, then when I have to get up, I'm dead tired and can't function. It sucks.

...'course I probably just need more exercise or something, and it's not related to the concussion.

MPREZIV 2006-01-13 12:06 PM

you lost me at "mod it"

If it doesn't have tires, I don't know anything about making any kind of modifications...

I've been asked a hundred times why I haven't "modded" my X-BOX. I have no idea WTF this means. I just play games...

sperry 2006-01-13 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MPREZIV
you lost me at "mod it"

If it doesn't have tires, I don't know anything about making any kind of modifications...

I've been asked a hundred times why I haven't "modded" my X-BOX. I have no idea WTF this means. I just play games...

Me too, which is why I bought a second PS2 instead of adding a hard drive to it. :lol:

AtomicLabMonkey 2006-01-13 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry
Ever since I whacked my head on a shelf in my parent's garage over Xmas, I haven't been able to sleep. Even with a dose of Tylenol PM in me, I can't get to sleep before 2am. Hell, last night I was up until 5:30 or so in the morning just laying in bed awake.

Careful dude, if you don't start sleeping you might end up here:

http://ignatz.brinkster.net/cimages/cfightclub14.jpg

tysonK 2006-01-13 10:33 PM

I've been clicking off nice 1'33's.:lol:

I'm still a noob GT4'r, how do I get the session record screen to show up, do I actually have to run a fast lap?


I set it for like 15 lap races. My hand cramps up with the controller.

I'm losing a lot of time in turn 4.

doubleurx 2006-01-13 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tysonK
I've been clicking off nice 1'33's.:lol:

I'm still a noob GT4'r, how do I get the session record screen to show up, do I actually have to run a fast lap?


I set it for like 15 lap races. My hand cramps up with the controller.

I'm losing a lot of time in turn 4.

Wait, which track you on?

sperry 2006-01-13 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by tysonK
I've been clicking off nice 1'33's.:lol:

I'm still a noob GT4'r, how do I get the session record screen to show up, do I actually have to run a fast lap?


I set it for like 15 lap races. My hand cramps up with the controller.

I'm losing a lot of time in turn 4.

Go to arcade mode and pick time trials. Then go to the track and you can run unlimited laps with the ghost car that echos your fastest lap. On the menu in TT mode you can see your fastest lap time (like my screen shots) and save it as a replay.

tysonK 2006-01-13 10:46 PM

check.

tysonK 2006-01-13 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry
Go to arcade mode and pick time trials. Then go to the track and you can run unlimited laps with the ghost car that echos your fastest lap. On the menu in TT mode you can see your fastest lap time (like my screen shots) and save it as a replay.

where's my T4 advice?

sperry 2006-01-13 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tysonK
where's my T4 advice?

Just to make sure we're on the same turn:

http://www.rennieclayton.com/DSRForu...eralMap.lg.gif

T4 sucks... downhill, slightly off camber... it's not easy. I tend to just "throw" the car down the hill. I come off 3a, but don't stay totally to the left. I'm usually just about to the top of 4th gear when I get to the braking point. Then I brake, down shift and throw the car into 4 on an early apex, almost in one motion. I usually clip the curb on the enterance to the corner (like I said, way early apex). Then I'm back on the throttle, wide open, and let the car run down the hill to the exit curb. The key is all about nailing the braking and turn in points... it's not easy. Once into the corner, the car kinda drives itself since you just let the wheel unwind as traction allows.

tysonK 2006-01-13 11:55 PM

Yep that's the one. I do like that turn I just mess it up a lot.

sperry 2006-01-13 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tysonK
Yep that's the one. I do like that turn I just mess it up a lot.

I mess it up alot too... but that's *why* I *don't* like it! :lol:

bemani 2006-01-14 12:58 AM

1:23.753

cody 2006-01-14 11:11 AM

That turn is tough to hit right, but when you hit it right, it's awesome.

I finally got time to try again last night with the new rules and I'm only throwing down 1' 27's. :( I'm shifting manually now too, and although more challenging, it's way more fun. :)

Hey Sperry, since you're our current leader and obviously know quite a bit more about racing than me...I find myself wanting to see a vid of one of your better laps. I understand if you want to wait till this challenge concludes (so as not to give away all your secrets ;) ) but if you can, a vid would be sweet.

doubleurx 2006-01-14 12:09 PM

Shifting gives you way more control on the turns. Last night I was in the 126's pretty consistantly. I'll try again today and mess around with the top speed settings a little more. I doubt I'll be gaining 3 seconds though. I keep coming in too hot on turns 2 & 3 which is where I am losing most of my time.

cody 2006-01-14 12:59 PM

T2 sucks! It's hard for me to know where I am since it's a blind corner.

sperry 2006-01-14 02:55 PM

Actually I attempted to film my 1'26 lap, but my camera doesn't really like to sync up with my TV. Plus my digicam takes uncompressed AVI footage, so I didn't think anyone wanted to download 200MB for 1'30 movie.

I'm gonna run some more here in a bit, so I'll set up the tripod and record my best lap, and re-encode it as a DivX or something before posting it.

Oh, and climbing the hill through turn 3a is a great place to make up a bunch of time if you get lucky and hit all the curbs just right.


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