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Dean 2004-02-17 10:45 PM

SCCA All Club Training Day(Fire School) Sat. @ Infineon
 
Anybody going?

Learn timing and scoring, flagging and communications, registration...

Oh, did I mention getting to put out fires with fire extinguishers. Yep, you get to do it.

Details:

Registration for all attendees will start at 8AM in the downstairs Media Center at Infineon Raceway (i.e., the old Drivers Lounge at Sears Point). We will not be rotating from one session to another as in previous years, but expect most people will be concentrating with one crew. New attendees have the option of choosing one crew or may quietly move from group to group, but will not have new training directed their way.

Flagging and Communications along with Emergency will start their training at 9AM in the Drivers Lounge.

Pit Fire will have their first burn starting around 9AM on the hill. Worker Trans will provide transportation from the Media Center to the burn area about every 30 minutes.

Registration will start their training session in a room TBD at 10AM.

The seminar is scheduled to conclude by 2:00pm but I would expect it will run over until 3:00pm. Lunch is provided - no charge for seminar attendees.

If you wish to drive down Fri and need a motel in the vicinity, the Inn Marin is an SCCA sponsor and offers the best rates for a first rate motel. The reservations phone number is 800 652-6565. An alternative is the Motel 6 on Fairgrounds Dr. in Vallejo.

Dave is checking on applications for regional Officials license and log so you can track events worked. You will receive one days credit toward your license for attending the seminar. You must be an SCCA member to obtain a Race Officials license, however, there is no charge for the license. It does entitle you to additional insurance so is worth applying for.

tysonK 2004-02-17 10:59 PM

Scott, Matt and I are going it looks like.

We are gonna hit a Sac Suby Meet on the way back.

"let's douse some fires"

sperry 2004-02-17 11:14 PM

Yeah, I'm there.

Dean 2004-02-17 11:17 PM

Remember to bring your SCCA membership card!

Put it in your wallet now!!!

sperry 2004-02-17 11:28 PM

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Remember to bring your SCCA membership card!

Put it in your wallet now!!!

It's always in there.... but I'm not sure why it's always in there... :lol:

dknv 2004-02-18 10:26 AM

I'm there.

The last email from Dave about this, was that we didn't need to be there at 8, but by 9.

I had suggested to Dave & Carol possibly stopping for an early dinner somewhere, heading out of Sears Point on the way home (or wherever).

Dean 2004-02-18 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by dknv
I'm there.

The last email from Dave about this, was that we didn't need to be there at 8, but by 9.

I had suggested to Dave & Carol possibly stopping for an early dinner somewhere, heading out of Sears Point on the way home (or wherever).

Stuff starts up about 9:00 so not showing up til 9:00 seams a little tardy IMHO.

I think 2:00 or so is a bit early for dinner, and it sounds like the Meet in Sac. is on many calendars. Speaking of which, do we have a thread on that somewhere, or details?

sperry 2004-02-18 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by dknv
I'm there.

The last email from Dave about this, was that we didn't need to be there at 8, but by 9.

I had suggested to Dave & Carol possibly stopping for an early dinner somewhere, heading out of Sears Point on the way home (or wherever).

Stuff starts up about 9:00 so not showing up til 9:00 seams a little tardy IMHO.

I think 2:00 or so is a bit early for dinner, and it sounds like the Meet in Sac. is on many calendars. Speaking of which, do we have a thread on that somewhere, or details?

The Sac Meet thread is insane, but here you go: http://www.i-club.com/forums/showthr...threadid=30788

dknv 2004-02-18 11:11 AM

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I think 2:00 or so is a bit early for dinner, and it sounds like the Meet in Sac. is on many calendars.

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Originally Posted by Dean
The seminar is scheduled to conclude by 2:00pm but I would expect it will run over until 3:00pm. Lunch is provided - no charge for seminar attendees.

Your first post includes Dave's note that we can expect it'll run over until 3pm. However, I forgot they are providing lunch, therefore, even 4pm may be too early to eat. so just nevermind my idea.

MattR 2004-02-18 11:17 AM

Scott, Did they agree on a new SAC meet location? or is it still at PizzaPucks? We might want to clarify that before Saturday.

sperry 2004-02-18 11:20 AM

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Scott, Did they agree on a new SAC meet location? or is it still at PizzaPucks? We might want to clarify that before Saturday.

Good point. Tho I don't care where we meet as long as we end up in some go-karts. :twisted:

Which reminds me: Austin, you need to come to this F&C Day and then get out on the kart track w/ us so I can spin you! :P :lol:

Kevin M 2004-02-18 11:23 AM

I'm not sure if we're debuting the new meet location this week or not. Fortunately, it's only a few blocks past the "old" meet location. I think we are going to start at the usual place this week, and then go to the new one. Not sure yet, but it will be posted soon.

dknv 2004-02-18 11:25 AM

I'm too lazy to sift thru nabisco, is karting going to be at the indoor kart track?

Kevin M 2004-02-18 11:26 AM

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I'm too lazy to sift thru nabisco, is karting going to be at the indoor kart track?

Nabisco is the devil! And no, our kart place is outdoors. But the benefit to that is smaller crowds/ less waiting when it's cold. They close it for rain, unfortunately. :(

AtomicLabMonkey 2004-02-18 11:32 AM

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Good point. Tho I don't care where we meet as long as we end up in some go-karts. :twisted:

Which reminds me: Austin, you need to come to this F&C Day and then get out on the kart track w/ us so I can spin you! :P :lol:

Dude I'd be on it, but I'm going to be a little busy down in San Luis Obispo this Friday-Saturday. :wink:

sperry 2004-02-18 11:37 AM

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I'm too lazy to sift thru nabisco, is karting going to be at the indoor kart track?

Nabisco is the devil! And no, our kart place is outdoors. But the benefit to that is smaller crowds/ less waiting when it's cold. They close it for rain, unfortunately. :(

I'm down for sprinkles though! :twisted: wet = good, less traction makes them feel faster

Kevin M 2004-02-18 11:45 AM

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I'm too lazy to sift thru nabisco, is karting going to be at the indoor kart track?

Nabisco is the devil! And no, our kart place is outdoors. But the benefit to that is smaller crowds/ less waiting when it's cold. They close it for rain, unfortunately. :(

I'm down for sprinkles though! :twisted: wet = good, less traction makes them feel faster

Werd. Except for the non-club n00bs out there don't how how to drive in the wet. At least us i-Club goons figured out how much fun those karts are in the rain and managed to keep them pointed more-or-less :twisted:in the right direction while driving- the other people couldn't finish a lap without spinning all on their own. :roll:

sperry 2004-02-18 09:39 PM

Okay, I talked to my sister. Matt, Tyson, we got a place to crash Friday night, except my sis is getting over a cold, so if she's still not feeling well, we may have to scrap the Friday night trip... unless of course we can con some the the Sac guys into putting us up. :lol: (Actually, I think they all have cats at their places, which I don't want to deal w/)

MattR 2004-02-18 09:44 PM

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Okay, I talked to my sister. Matt, Tyson, we got a place to crash Friday night, except my sis is getting over a cold, so if she's still not feeling well, we may have to scrap the Friday night trip... unless of course we can con some the the Sac guys into putting us up. :lol: (Actually, I think they all have cats at their places, which I don't want to deal w/)

cool, I guess we'll have to play it by ear. I guess we can leave early Saturday morning, I'm okay either way. I put my snow tyres back on tonight, so no worries.

sperry 2004-02-18 10:31 PM

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Okay, I talked to my sister. Matt, Tyson, we got a place to crash Friday night, except my sis is getting over a cold, so if she's still not feeling well, we may have to scrap the Friday night trip... unless of course we can con some the the Sac guys into putting us up. :lol: (Actually, I think they all have cats at their places, which I don't want to deal w/)

cool, I guess we'll have to play it by ear. I guess we can leave early Saturday morning, I'm okay either way. I put my snow tyres back on tonight, so no worries.

The plan for now is to crash at her place. She said she'd let me know if she's not feeling good enough. She even said she might just crash at her boyfriend's place so we could take over her apartment.. :lol:

MattR 2004-02-18 10:40 PM

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She even said she might just crash at her boyfriend's place so we could take over her apartment.. :lol:

Hahaha! She's brave!

tysonK 2004-02-19 06:23 PM

Wow that nice of her!

cool sister.

sperry 2004-02-19 09:04 PM

Okay, so what time are we leaving? Sunlight is our friend over the pass!

Tyosn, you need to have a last minute "doctor's appointment" or something. ;)

Kostamojen 2004-02-19 09:27 PM

Hey guys, I know this is kinda odd for me to ask... Kevin just told me that the SECCS crowd was going to head down here for this event, and I was wondering... Is there any chance any of you can pick up one of those cheap SA2000 helmets sold at that motorcycle shop up in Reno for me? Im not sure if ill make it up to Reno before the big buttonwillow track day, so I thought I would ask...

If anyone sees this in time and is willing, give me a call @ 916-390-3650 anytime tommorow. I can have Kevin pick up the helmet, or even meet up with you guys somewhere.

AtomicLabMonkey 2004-02-19 10:11 PM

The phrase, "If you have a $10 head wear a $10 helmet" comes to mind. :lol:

sperry 2004-02-19 10:15 PM

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The phrase, "If you have a $10 head wear a $10 helmet" comes to mind. :lol:

Well, if they're SA2000 then they should be halfway decent, but I'm sure a $200 close faced helmet is safer.

Either way, they're great for autoX where the helmet really isn't necessary except to lower the cost of insurance for SCCA. Plus the open face is much more comfortable, esp. on a hot day. As far track days.... well it's still probably good enough, since the change of an incedent is pretty low... but if something did happen, well, I'd rather be wearing my close-faces Bieffe.

Oh and Steve: I don't know where the place is... pm Matt or Tyson, I think they know what the deal is on the $50 helmets. Also, I'm not 100% sure they're SA2000, they might only be M2000, since I think it's from a motorcycle shop.

MattR 2004-02-19 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Kostamojen
Hey guys, I know this is kinda odd for me to ask... Kevin just told me that the SECCS crowd was going to head down here for this event, and I was wondering... Is there any chance any of you can pick up one of those cheap SA2000 helmets sold at that motorcycle shop up in Reno for me? Im not sure if ill make it up to Reno before the big buttonwillow track day, so I thought I would ask...

If anyone sees this in time and is willing, give me a call @ 916-390-3650 anytime tommorow. I can have Kevin pick up the helmet, or even meet up with you guys somewhere.

Steve, IF I can get out of work early tommorrow, I can try to run by there, but if not, then I will have no time to run by. I'll let you know if I can get by. Also, One of us will probably be down before the track day again, so we can plan it out a little more. I'll give it a shot tommorrow, what size helmet do you wear?

Dean 2004-02-20 11:09 AM

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The phrase, "If you have a $10 head wear a $10 helmet" comes to mind. :lol:

I agree with Scott. Anthing that gets a SNELL rating is a pretty damn good helmet, and much better than the DOT only ones. In general, the pricer ones have better ventelation, removable liners, cool paint jobs, are the "latest" designs etc...

My full face Bieffe M1995 was about $60 bucks down in Carson 5 or 6 years back. It is called the "Classic" because it is the same shell thay have been making for about 15 years, so their mold costs etc. are long since paid off.

Reasonably priced does not mean it won't protect your head as long as it has a SNELL rating IMHO.

I am looking at some of the Full Face SA2000s in this month's Sports Car. There are a couple under $300... I'd rather get a new reasonably priced helmet every couple years than use and old expensive one unitl the rules force me to get a new one 8-10-15 years later.

Dean 2004-02-20 11:18 AM

Weather for tonight looks OK, Sat gets worse as it gets later, and Sunday is not good. I think Debbie and I are still planning to get out shortly after 5 or so. Saturday looks like it could be wet at the track, so bring your rain gear...

Truckee weather:
Friday : Cloudy skies. High near 40F. Winds light and variable.

Friday night : Mostly cloudy skies. Low 18F. Winds light and variable.

Saturday : A mix of light rain and snow later in the day. High 39F. Winds S at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of precip 30%.

Saturday night : Flurries and some snow showers in the evening becoming less likely toward morning. Low around 20F. Winds light and variable. Chance of snow 50%.

Sunday (24 hours) : Snow showers. Highs in the mid 30s and lows in the upper teens.

Sonoma weather:
Saturday : Cloudy with occasional showers. High 59F. Winds SSE at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 50%.

Saturday night : Cloudy with occasional showers arriving late at night. Low around 40F. Winds SE at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 60%.

Sunday (24 hours) : Rain. Highs in the mid 50s and lows in the low 40s.

Kostamojen 2004-02-20 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Kostamojen
Hey guys, I know this is kinda odd for me to ask... Kevin just told me that the SECCS crowd was going to head down here for this event, and I was wondering... Is there any chance any of you can pick up one of those cheap SA2000 helmets sold at that motorcycle shop up in Reno for me? Im not sure if ill make it up to Reno before the big buttonwillow track day, so I thought I would ask...

If anyone sees this in time and is willing, give me a call @ 916-390-3650 anytime tommorow. I can have Kevin pick up the helmet, or even meet up with you guys somewhere.

Steve, IF I can get out of work early tommorrow, I can try to run by there, but if not, then I will have no time to run by. I'll let you know if I can get by. Also, One of us will probably be down before the track day again, so we can plan it out a little more. I'll give it a shot tommorrow, what size helmet do you wear?

7 3/8 Probably too late now though...

dknv 2004-02-23 08:57 AM

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Awesome seminar.

We learned about the different roles of track workers (Flagging/Communications and Emergency response), their protocol for responding to incidents, and heard some free-form Q&A issues about recommended approaches for dealing with, and communicating about, situations.

In the afternoon we observed how the teams responds to different alert scenarios (car runs into barrier w/driver hurt; a 2-car crash), starting with flaggers' signals to the communicators, the communicators language and dispatch of response, and the emergency response team's actions. A big observation for me was how quickly (Thank God) it all happens. There were some mistakes and some steps missed by the scenario participants, but those were learning opportunities for everyone too.

While we didn't learn about the comprehensive set of hand and flag signals we did get to see the process put together in a high-stress situation. I think everyone who runs on a track competitively should go through a session on what these workers do, because I know I have a huge amount of respect now for what they all do.

We watched a demo of the response team extracting someone using the jaws of life tool, and I also got to put on a fireman's helmet & gloves, and use a fire extinguisher to put out a fire - the first time I've ever done that. That bottle was heavy!

JoelK 2004-02-23 11:52 AM

Does anyone ever want to be called an emergency hooker? I mean... EVER?!?

sperry 2004-02-23 12:37 PM

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Does anyone ever want to be called an emergency hooker? I mean... EVER?!?

Dude, I want that jacket so bad. :lol:

AtomicLabMonkey 2004-02-23 01:14 PM

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Dude, I want that jacket so bad. :lol:

Seriously.

Kevin M 2004-02-23 02:02 PM

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Dude, I want that jacket so bad. :lol:

To be handed out at the end of a date?


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