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MikeK 2004-06-16 10:07 AM

Can Scott win STX?
 
I had a bit of "spare" time at work (what I like to call "morning", as opposed to "afternoon", when I like to nap), so I started doing a few calculations.

There are 8 autocross races left, so I looked at 2 scenarios (all assume 4 people competing for STX, so the points available are 21, 16, 14 and 12 for the 4 positions):

1. Scott wins every one of the remaining 8 races

If Scott comes first in STX in every one of those 8 races, he will end the season with 308 points with no drops, and 248 points with 4 drops.

What does Dean have to do to win? If he comes second in 2 races (16 points each) and third in 2 races (14 points each) then doesn't even bother showing up for the last 4 races he will end the season with 249 points, and win STX by 1 point.

2. Dean continues to win every race

On the other hand, if Dean continues to come first in every race, and Scott continues to come second, Dean will win STX in 3 more races (after round 12). At that point, even if Dean missed the last 5 races he would end up with 252 points. If Scott then went on to win the last 5 races he would still only end up with 233 with 4 drops.

So in order to win STX Dean needs to either:

- Win 2 races and just show up to a third race
- Win 1 race and just show up to 3 races
- Come second in 2 races and third in 2 races

Sorry scott, but I don't like your chances :)

ArthurS 2004-06-16 10:18 AM

:lol: :lol:

Kevin M 2004-06-16 10:27 AM

Street Mod is still entirely up for grabs Scott.... :P

AtomicLabMonkey 2004-06-16 10:27 AM

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1. Scott wins every one of the remaining 8 races


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sperry 2004-06-16 10:27 AM

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Sorry scott, but I don't like your chances :)

:lol:

I'm not surprised. To be honest, the interesting numbers would be to figure out what you need to do in order to beat me for 2nd in STX!

As far as gettin whupped by Dean... no biggie. I feel like I've already improved a ton over last season having Dean to chase after, and that's what I need to do if I want to ever be competative at a national level.

Last season the pressure from Theo really helped me to get better. Unfortunately I think Theo over-cooked his tires near the end of the season last year, so I pulled away. :( It's too bad he didn't campaign the white wagon this season with Dean, Tyson and I (and now Mike!)... it would have been an awesome dog-fight (well, at least for 2nd place)! But if I had a race-prepped Ghia in my garage, I'd race that in a heartbeat over a WRX.

sperry 2004-06-16 10:29 AM

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1. Scott wins every one of the remaining 8 races


2. Dean continues to win every race

http://renzokuken05.tripod.com//site...es/owned40.jpg

You == owned by Tripod.... don't you know not to link to images over there!!?

sperry 2004-06-16 10:30 AM

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Street Mod is still entirely up for grabs Scott.... :P

I don't think there are enough events left for me to run SM and win anything.

AtomicLabMonkey 2004-06-16 10:31 AM

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You == owned by Tripod.... don't you know not to link to images over there!!?

That picture was too good not to. :lol:

Kevin M 2004-06-16 10:37 AM

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Street Mod is still entirely up for grabs Scott.... :P

I don't think there are enough events left for me to run SM and win anything.

Actually you could probably win SM on your Kumhos. Jim is the only one running it regularly, and his raw times are mostly slower than yours. Still plenty of events left.

sperry 2004-06-16 10:40 AM

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Street Mod is still entirely up for grabs Scott.... :P

I don't think there are enough events left for me to run SM and win anything.

Actually you could probably win SM on your Kumhos. Jim is the only one running it regularly, and his raw times are mostly slower than yours. Still plenty of events left.

You have to run 51% of the events in one class to be eligible for a season championship... we've run 9 out of 17... so the 8 events left aren't enough to pull off a win... true I might be able to get a points lead, but it wouldn't be worth a trophy.

Oh, and I have Falkens... :P

MattR 2004-06-16 11:56 AM

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Street Mod is still entirely up for grabs Scott.... :P

I don't think there are enough events left for me to run SM and win anything.

Actually you could probably win SM on your Kumhos. Jim is the only one running it regularly, and his raw times are mostly slower than yours. Still plenty of events left.

Kumhos'??? We don;t have no stinking Kumhos...

Scott, I'll switch to SM with you and we can battle it out to the end of the season... John Evans is kicking my ass every week in street tire anyway....

I guess we can just focus on PAX...The battle for 10th place!!!

Kevin M 2004-06-16 12:55 PM

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Kumhos'??? We don;t have no stinking Kumhos...

Scott, I'll switch to SM with you and we can battle it out to the end of the season... John Evans is kicking my ass every week in street tire anyway....

I guess we can just focus on PAX...The battle for 10th place!!!

Nice... talk someone who was running slower raw times than you into a PAX class that's like .15 higher... way to be a nice guy there sport. :P

Dean 2004-06-16 04:22 PM

Wow, you work all day, and miss an entire oportunity to gloat... :banana:

I still have an SM car handy to spank you boys with, so don't even go there... :)

And most importantly, it is to late to switch classes. You must have 51%, or 9 events in a class to be eligible for the season awards this year... Only 8 left... Sorry.

sperry 2004-06-16 04:24 PM

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Wow, you work all day, and miss an entire oportunity to gloat... :banana:

I still have an SM car handy to spank you boys with, so don't even go there... :)

And most importantly, it is to late to switch classes. You must have 51%, or 9 events in a class to be eligible for the season awards this year... Only 8 left... Sorry.

WT3PA.

dknv 2004-06-16 04:24 PM

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Wow, you work all day, and miss an entire oportunity to gloat... :banana:

Gloat, d'you mean how close he got to you on Sat.?

sperry 2004-06-16 04:26 PM

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Wow, you work all day, and miss an entire oportunity to gloat... :banana:

Gloat, d'you mean how close he got to you on Sat.?

Muhahahhhhhaha! Owned! ;) :lol:

Kevin M 2004-06-16 04:27 PM

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Wow, you work all day, and miss an entire oportunity to gloat... :banana:

Gloat, d'you mean how close he got to you on Sat.?

Muhahahhhhhaha! Owned! ;) :lol:

Ask any racer, any REAl racer, and he'll tell you... whether it's by an inch or a mile, winning is winning. :lol:

sperry 2004-06-16 04:30 PM

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Wow, you work all day, and miss an entire oportunity to gloat... :banana:

Gloat, d'you mean how close he got to you on Sat.?

Muhahahhhhhaha! Owned! ;) :lol:

Ask any racer, any REAl racer, and he'll tell you... whether it's by an inch or a mile, winning is winning. :lol:

I gotta capture and post my last run video from Sunday... I actually made that joke on myself after I was back on grid. :lol:

(IBAustinTellsMeHeStillHasn'tSeenTheVideoFromAtwat er)

dknv 2004-06-16 04:35 PM

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Wow, you work all day, and miss an entire oportunity to gloat... :banana:

Gloat, d'you mean how close he got to you on Sat.?

Muhahahhhhhaha! Owned! ;) :lol:

Ask any racer, any REAl racer, and he'll tell you... whether it's by an inch or a mile, winning is winning. :lol:

I gotta capture and post my last run video from Sunday... I actually made that joke on myself after I was back on grid. :lol:

(IBAustinTellsMeHeStillHasn'tSeenTheVideoFromAtwat er)

For Real! I want to hear the end part with the expletive deleteds!

sperry 2004-06-16 04:36 PM

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For Real! I want to hear the end part with the expletive deleteds!

I think I say "Damn" about 100 times as I'm blowing the last turn... :lol:

Dean 2004-06-16 04:38 PM

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WT3PA.

:huh:

And before we go throwing around Owned's, who came in second on Saturday in STX??? :twisted:

Great driving Mike... Keep reading the Solo Bible...

sperry 2004-06-16 04:41 PM

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WT3PA.

:huh:

And before we go throwing around Owned's, who came in second on Saturday in STX??? :twisted:

Great driving Mike... Keep reading the Solo Bible...

I got nuthin on that one. Mike was plain old faster than me... 'course he was driving your car Dean. I think it's the holes in your fenders making the car lighter! :P (Wait a minute... I could have protested *both* of you guys and taken 1st place for the weekend!!! :x :lol:)

MattR 2004-06-16 04:43 PM

pOrtest!!!!!!!!!!!

Dean 2004-06-16 04:45 PM

Again, WT3PA = :?: :?: :?: :?: Even google couldn't help me on this one...

Kevin M 2004-06-16 04:45 PM

welcome to 3 posts ago. Sheesh. :roll: :lol:

MattR 2004-06-16 04:46 PM

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welcome to 3 posts ago. Sheesh. :roll: :lol:


:roll:

tysonK 2004-06-16 04:46 PM

sweet than I would get 2nd right?

We need a common car STX challenge! :twisted:

Kevin M 2004-06-16 04:48 PM

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welcome to 3 posts ago. Sheesh. :roll: :lol:


:roll:

:monkey:

Dean 2004-06-16 04:48 PM

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I think it's the holes in your fenders making the car lighter! :P (Wait a minute... I could have protested *both* of you guys and taken 1st place for the weekend!!! :x :lol:)

new liners on the way, along with teh cool brake duct thingies, so now you are really in trouble. :lol: :lol:

Cheapest including shipping, as well as actually being in stock....

Subie Gal...
I'll update the other post with details later...

MattR 2004-06-16 04:50 PM

Be careful you don't get the cool brake duck things that Williams BMW uses...you'll get banned instantly. :lol:

sperry 2004-06-16 04:53 PM

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Be careful you don't get the cool brake duck things that Williams BMW uses...you'll get banned instantly. :lol:

:lol: Clever.

Dean 2004-06-16 04:53 PM

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welcome to 3 posts ago. Sheesh. :roll: :lol:

I'm sorry, all you lazy people who don't trim your quotes and you end up with indent hell... And by the way, 3PA didn't exist when I started typeing I don't think... This is the problem with having 12+ people on at once, to much thread contention... (Inside Timing joke for Scott)

tysonK 2004-06-16 04:53 PM

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Be careful you don't get the cool brake duck things that Williams BMW uses...you'll get banned instantly. :lol:

:lol: Clever.

fUnnay, very fUnnay!

Dean 2004-06-16 04:55 PM

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And by the way, 3PA didn't exist when I started typeing I don't think...

OK, so I lied, it was from earlier, I just missed it... PLease note the properly edited quote...

MattR 2004-06-16 04:57 PM

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Be careful you don't get the cool brake duck things that Williams BMW uses...you'll get banned instantly. :lol:

:lol: Clever.

Not bad for a waterboy, eh?

Dean 2004-06-16 04:59 PM

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Not bad for a waterboy, eh?

Oh, two inside timing jokes in one thread... Timing and scoring geeks unite... :lol:

MattR 2004-06-16 05:00 PM

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Not bad for a waterboy, eh?

Oh, two inside timing jokes in one thread... Timing and scoring geeks unite... :lol:

However, techically, I'm the only one getting paid for my work in the timing bus...do I need to fill out a 1099?

sperry 2004-06-16 05:01 PM

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Not bad for a waterboy, eh?

Oh, two inside timing jokes in one thread... Timing and scoring geeks unite... :lol:

However, techically, I'm the only one getting paid for my work in the timing bus...do I need to fill out a 1099?

:lol: Uh oh, Matt's "on" again...

MattR 2004-06-16 05:03 PM

<------------------ ON!

MattR 2004-06-16 05:04 PM

Double-doody on?


*Hears Eric laughing miles away*

tysonK 2004-06-16 05:10 PM

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Double-doody on?


*Hears Eric laughing miles away*

his typing is not on.

MattR 2004-06-16 05:13 PM

There...I edited both..haha

tysonK 2004-06-16 05:15 PM

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There...I edited both..haha

friggin moderators in their friggin gold houses!

MattR 2004-06-16 05:16 PM

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There...I edited both..haha

friggin moderators in their friggin gold houses!


bow down bitch...I'm Rick James 8)

MikeK 2004-06-16 05:35 PM

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And before we go throwing around Owned's, who came in second on Saturday in STX??? :twisted:

Great driving Mike... Keep reading the Solo Bible...

Thanks dean ... but I really think a lot of it was your car ... my one run in my car was last in STX on saturday. I need to get you to drive my car next time there are fun runs :banana:

And thanks again for letting me co-drive. It was very hectic switching numbers, doing tryes and watering down engines on the grid ... I hope I haven't cost you a position in pax!

Dean 2004-06-16 07:58 PM

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And thanks again for letting me co-drive. It was very hectic switching numbers, doing tryes and watering down engines on the grid ... I hope I haven't cost you a position in pax!

I can't resist...

No worries mate. :)


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