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Dean 2005-01-17 12:37 PM

Audi Club events in March, April, and June.
 
EDITED 3/1/05...
Mark your calendars...

March 7-8 Buttonwillow event info
March 18-19, Laguna Seca event info & On-Line Entry
April 9-10, Pahrump, NV Event Info
June 10-12, Reno-Fernley (Event info coming soon)

Buttonwillow, and Pahrump entry forms

Feel free to ask me questions...

Audi Club Membership is required for these events. If you are signing up as a new member, I would appreciate it if you put "Dean Benz" on the form in the "How did you hear about the Club?" field so I get credit for the anunal membership contest. Thanks

On-Line Membership Form

MikeK 2005-01-17 02:13 PM

How many events do you have to attend before you can get out of the exercises on the first day?

Dean 2005-01-17 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeK
How many events do you have to attend before you can get out of the exercises on the first day?

Basically, you have to be capable and comfortable running in the intermediate/advanced group!

Recently, we are getting many more "intermediate" drivers, and thus the weird D&E groups at the last event.

It was so long ago, I think I did 2-3 events, but I had no track or autocross experience before that.

You are probably good for the C group at the next event. If it is a new track to you though, just make sure your instructor knows that.

MattR 2005-01-17 02:30 PM

Sweet...I think I'm in for Pahrump, and I'm planning on RFR for sure...Can't wait.

MikeK 2005-01-17 02:30 PM

If it is any indication, I was the slowest person in the group at thunderhill in the wet, but I spent the dry sessions stuck behind people - until I cooked my brakes 8)

I will probably go to pahrump if I can get out of the excercises, but I can't spare 2 weekdays for buttonwillow :(

Dean 2005-01-17 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeK
If it is any indication, I was the slowest person in the group at thunderhill in the wet, but I spent the dry sessions stuck behind people - until I cooked my brakes 8)

I will probably go to Pahrump if I can get out of the excercises, but I can't spare 2 weekdays for buttonwillow :(

Pahrump is about a 6-7 hour drive. and is probably going to cost you two 1/2 work days. I will take both Friday and Monday off for it, and am planning on Mon-Wed. for Buttonwillow.

How long a drive was Buttonwillow? 395 most of the way?

Note on brakes. Flush before you go, and be prepared to do bleed/flush at the end of the first day before you leave the track. You won't have time the morning of the second day. You may not need to, but it is better than missing track time.

Getting comfortable going fast in the wet is very difficult, even on good wet tires. Smooth/slow hands, and feet become paramount, and things you got away with in the dry don't play no more.. 8)

MattR 2005-01-17 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean
How long a drive was Buttonwillow? 395 most of the way?

8)

Dean, Mikesti and I took about 5.5 hours to get there via I80 to 5 south. That is the preferred way. We were also traveling at pretty retarded speeds, so I'd plan on 6 hours or so...

You can also take 395 to 58, cut across Tehachapi through Bakersfield, but that way takes way longer...I'd stick to the 80 + 5 route.

Buttonwillow is West of Bakersfield,Ca on I-5.

Dean 2005-01-17 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MattR
Dean, Mikesti and I took about 5.5 hours to get there via I80 to 5 south. That is the preferred way. We were also traveling at pretty retarded speeds, so I'd plan on 6 hours or so...

You can also take 395 to 58, cut across Tehachapi through Bakersfield, but that way takes way longer...I'd stick to the 80 + 5 route.

395 in March might be a nice drive, and I'll have the whole day/weekend if I want to do it since it is a Monday-Tuesday event. Probably depend on how much scrambling geting the car ready is happening Sat.-Sun. :) Definitely come back 5/80. Did you guys cut through downtown Sac. or just take the normal 80 bypass?

MattR 2005-01-17 02:56 PM

I always take 80 to 5 directly, avoiding Business 80...personal preference.

Kevin M 2005-01-17 03:17 PM

Wouldn't the TNL school we took qualify us for Group C with Audi Club Dean? Personally, I won;t be doing AC events til the Fernley one, so by then I *should* have even more track time, but I would think that track experience + good instruction should do it right?

Dean 2005-01-17 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS
Wouldn't the TNL school we took qualify us for Group C with Audi Club Dean? Personally, I won;t be doing AC events til the Fernley one, so by then I *should* have even more track time, but I would think that track experience + good instruction should do it right?

No. If one day TNL is your only performance driving experience, then you will probably end up in one of the two novice/beginner groups.

It depends on the individual, but a couple of track days would probably be a minimum with autocross thrown in as a bonus. Mike with his TNL, and now some Audi stuff is probably good. Someone who has autocrossed but never been on a track, and/or only done the one day of TNL probably is not ready for the speeds in the Audi group C. They may be by day 2, and can get bumped if needed, but that seldom happens as much of group A & B are going "fast" by day 2.

Learning to look for flagers, and managing your vision, and body parts at speed on a track takes practice, and the last thing you want is to be learning while being constantly overtaken.

MikeSTI 2005-01-17 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MattR
Dean, Mikesti and I took about 5.5 hours to get there via I80 to 5 south. That is the preferred way. We were also traveling at pretty retarded speeds, so I'd plan on 6 hours or so...

:lol: :lol: that was a nice drive 8)

Kevin M 2005-01-17 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean
Quote:

Originally Posted by BAN SUVS
Wouldn't the TNL school we took qualify us for Group C with Audi Club Dean? Personally, I won;t be doing AC events til the Fernley one, so by then I *should* have even more track time, but I would think that track experience + good instruction should do it right?

No. If one day TNL is your only performance driving experience, then you will probably end up in one of the two novice/beginner groups.

It depends on the individual, but a couple of track days would probably be a minimum with autocross thrown in as a bonus. Mike with his TNL, and now some Audi stuff is probably good. Someone who has autocrossed but never been on a track, and/or only done the one day of TNL probably is not ready for the speeds in the Audi group C. They may be by day 2, and can get bumped if needed, but that seldom happens as much of group A & B are going "fast" by day 2.

Learning to look for flagers, and managing your vision, and body parts at speed on a track takes practice, and the last thing you want is to be learning while being constantly overtaken.

Okay, so TNL 1 isn't enough, but TNL+ 3 other track events + lots of autocross should get me into Intermediate yes?

MattR 2005-01-17 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS
Okay, so TNL 1 isn't enough, but TNL+ 3 other track events + lots of autocross should get me into Intermediate yes?

Kev, as far as your driving I'd say you've got plenty of experience for Int... You might want to make the decision depending on the track config...It would be sweet if the new technical section was finished by then.

dknv 2005-01-17 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeK
How many events do you have to attend before you can get out of the exercises on the first day?

Ah, c'mon, didn't you like lane toss?

MikeK 2005-01-17 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dknv
Ah, c'mon, didn't you like lane toss?

Not for $175 per day + hotel bills + time off work!! :furious:

Dean 2005-01-18 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS
Okay, so TNL 1 isn't enough, but TNL+ 3 other track events + lots of autocross should get me into Intermediate yes?

Yes

sperry 2005-01-18 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Dean
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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS
Okay, so TNL 1 isn't enough, but TNL+ 3 other track events + lots of autocross should get me into Intermediate yes?

Yes

How about 2+ seasons of autocross, 2 TnL track days at RFR, and one Unlimited Laps event at T-Hill?

I doubt I'll be able to run in the March or April events, since the car should be getting its tranny installed about then, but I'm in for RFR for sure!

MikeSTI 2005-01-18 09:55 AM

I think I will be in for April :D

hey Dean when will signs ups be avalible?

Dean 2005-01-18 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by sperry
How about 2+ seasons of autocross, 2 TnL track days at RFR, and one Unlimited Laps event at T-Hill?

That is probably OK...

Dean 2005-01-18 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeSTI
I think I will be in for April :D

hey Dean when will signs ups be avalible?

Buttonwillow, and Pahrump entry forms areHERE

More event info for Pahrump shoud be up by next week.

MikeSTI 2005-01-18 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Dean
Buttonwillow, and Pahrump entry forms areHERE

More event info for Pahrump shoud be up by next week.

thanks Dean :D I also need to become a member? I guess the real question is should I get a 1 year or just go for the 3 year and get the savings :D 8)

Dean 2005-02-07 05:21 PM

Bump for New March 18-19, Laguna Seca event!!!

This is a Friday-Saturday...

Details to come. You are some of the first to hear about it...

First post updated.

dknv 2005-02-07 11:22 PM

Those are great dates!

You guys should go, a track experience at L-S is AWESOME!!!

MikeSTI 2005-02-08 09:43 AM

I dont see any info for the Laguna Seca event............

............how do we sign up? how much will the event be? who's going? :mrgreen:

BOO 2005-02-08 09:47 AM

Re: Audi Club events in March, April, and June.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean
EDITED 2/7/04...
Mark your calendars...

March 7-8 Buttonwillow event info
March 18-19, Laguna Seca (Event info coming soon)
April 9-10, Pahrump, NV (Event info coming soon)
June 10-12, Reno-Fernley (Event info coming soon)

Buttonwillow, and Pahrump entry forms

Hey Mike.. I think thats why this info is in Bold... lol

MattR 2005-02-08 09:49 AM

(event info coming soon)

MikeSTI 2005-02-08 09:56 AM

WTF n00bs :lol: :lol:

I can sign up for the Pahrump (Event info coming soon)?

but I dont even see LS on the calander?

it also says that if you dont sign up a month in advance that there will be an additional $25 for late regisration.

SO GET IT RIGHT

or I should say: you must not be going because you would have hit the wall :roll:

Dean 2005-02-08 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeSTI
I dont see any info for the Laguna Seca event............

............how do we sign up? how much will the event be? who's going? :mrgreen:

Laguna just offered us the dates yesterday, so you guys were some of thee first to know it is hapening. Details will go up as soon as possible.

I will be there. I'm trying to convince Scott, Mr. "I want to run Laguna" to go.

BOO 2005-02-08 09:57 AM

Thanks Matt... I would love to go to this one.. Not to drive ofcourse this is by far a track for the novice.. even though I am a pretty good driver huh Mike H. :lol:

BOO 2005-02-08 09:57 AM

Thanks Matt... I would love to go to this one.. Not to drive ofcourse this is by far a track for the novice.. even though I am a pretty good driver huh Mike H. :lol:

MattR 2005-02-08 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BOO
Thanks Matt... I would love to go to this one.. Not to drive ofcourse this is by far a track for the novice.. even though I am a pretty good driver huh Mike H. :lol:

You'd be fine, that's why they have intsrtuctors... I may consider this one. I want to drive seca real bad. Dean, post up details as soon as you have them.

sperry 2005-02-08 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Dean
I will be there. I'm trying to convince Scott, Mr. "I want to run Laguna" to go.

The best convincing you can do is to pay my entry fees. ;) :lol:

It's not a matter of wanting to go, it's a matter of affording it. Hell, as it is I'm buying a transmission I can't actually afford. :lol: Plus tires, fuel, hotel, etc. It's not looking very likely.

Dean 2005-02-08 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MattR
Quote:

Originally Posted by BOO
Thanks Matt... I would love to go to this one.. Not to drive ofcourse this is by far a track for the novice.. even though I am a pretty good driver huh Mike H. :lol:

You'd be fine, that's why they have intsrtuctors... I may consider this one. I want to drive seca real bad. Dean, post up details as soon as you have them.

Will do Matt...

To reinforce what Matt said about instructors...

The Audi club typically has 20-50 rank novices who have never done anything but drive their car at normal speeds on the street at every event at every venue.

We are heavily geared around meeting the needs of these drivers! Making their experience SAFE, enjoyable, and a learning experience are paramount so they will want to come back.

There is also an instructor in your passenger seat every second you are on the track, and prior to you driving the track you have exercises to get you in the right mode, and orientation laps with your instructor driving your car at 50% with you in the passenger seat. There is also time during instructor run groups for you to ride with them in their cars.

The Audi club puts on these events at pretty much every track on the east and west coast a number of time a year. There is no bad track to learn on, despite what Kevin thinks, as long as you are willing to learn, and leave your ego at home.

I highly reccomend any of these events to pretty much everyone, including you Sergio! :)

Dean 2005-02-08 01:08 PM

Pahrump event info is now up. http://www.ronalusa.com/pahrump05.html

Edited first post

BOO 2005-02-08 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean
Quote:

Originally Posted by MattR
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Originally Posted by BOO
Thanks Matt... I would love to go to this one.. Not to drive ofcourse this is by far a track for the novice.. even though I am a pretty good driver huh Mike H. :lol:

You'd be fine, that's why they have intsrtuctors... I may consider this one. I want to drive seca real bad. Dean, post up details as soon as you have them.

Will do Matt...

To reinforce what Matt said about instructors...

The Audi club typically has 20-50 rank novices who have never done anything but drive their car at normal speeds on the street at every event at every venue.

We are heavily geared around meeting the needs of these drivers! Making their experience SAFE, enjoyable, and a learning experience are paramount so they will want to come back.

There is also an instructor in your passenger seat every second you are on the track, and prior to you driving the track you have exercises to get you in the right mode, and orientation laps with your instructor driving your car at 50% with you in the passenger seat. There is also time during instructor run groups for you to ride with them in their cars.

The Audi club puts on these events at pretty much every track on the east and west coast a number of time a year. There is no bad track to learn on, despite what Kevin thinks, as long as you are willing to learn, and leave your ego at home.

I highly reccomend any of these events to pretty much everyone, including you Sergio! :)

Damn Am I that bad of a driver??? lol :lol:

Dean... One of these days I will have to gladly take you up on the offer...

Since I promised to Auto-X and never did.. (Just not my thing.. but I do like to watch.. lol )

Dean 2005-02-22 10:49 AM

Bump for Laguna info... Edited first post.

March 18-19, Laguna Seca event info

MikeSTI 2005-02-22 11:27 AM

I'm starting to think I want to be an intermediate before doing this track :lol:

I might not make this one after all $425 :shock:

Dean 2005-02-22 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeSTI
I'm starting to think I want to be an intermediate before doing this track :lol:

I might not make this one after all $425 :shock:

I understand. Laguna is the most expensive track in N. CA to run an event at as I recall.

doubleurx 2005-02-22 11:50 AM

Dean did I read day 1 correctly. Novice group only has exercises in the morning and no track time at all on the first day? What do the novice groups do in the afternoon?

MikeSTI 2005-02-22 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by doubleurx
Dean did I read day 1 correctly. Novice group only has exercises in the morning and no track time at all on the first day? What do the novice groups do in the afternoon?

I saw that also thats why I said I wanted to be an intermediate before going there 8)

doubleurx 2005-02-22 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeSTI
Quote:

Originally Posted by doubleurx
Dean did I read day 1 correctly. Novice group only has exercises in the morning and no track time at all on the first day? What do the novice groups do in the afternoon?

I saw that also thats why I said I wanted to be an intermediate before going there 8)

I'm hopeful it's a typo. I can't imagine there would be nothing scheduled for the afternoon.

Dean 2005-02-22 12:18 PM

Typo! They are fixing.

sperry 2005-02-22 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean
Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeSTI
I'm starting to think I want to be an intermediate before doing this track :lol:

I might not make this one after all $425 :shock:

I understand. Laguna is the most expensive track in N. CA to run an event at as I recall.

Yeah, but I remember you saying something about this probably won't be quite as expensive? :lol:

I think I'll pass on a $1000++ weekend that will probably be in the rain. :(

Dean 2005-02-22 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry
Yeah, but I remember you saying something about this probably won't be quite as expensive? :lol:

I think I'll pass on a $1000++ weekend that will probably be in the rain. :(

I think on short notice, they are worried about filling the event, and getting sponsors.

Putting on a 2 day event with banquet, track food, and safety equipment is a bit more expensive than a RFR TNL day.

No excuse, it is what it is. Sorry if I missled you.

sperry 2005-02-22 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean
Quote:

Originally Posted by sperry
Yeah, but I remember you saying something about this probably won't be quite as expensive? :lol:

I think I'll pass on a $1000++ weekend that will probably be in the rain. :(

I think on short notice, they are worried about filling the event, and getting sponsors.

Putting on a 2 day event with banquet, track food, and safety equipment is a bit more expensive than a RFR TNL day.

No excuse, it is what it is. Sorry if I missled you.

I thought you said something about the last-minute-ness meaning that prices would be a bit lower than the normal Audi @ Seca prices. Instead it's about $100 more, IIRC!

No big deal, since I can't afford to go even if it was $325.

MikeK 2005-02-22 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry
I think I'll pass on a $1000++ weekend that will probably be in the rain. :(

C'mon, who can pass on $250 worth of braking exercises? :P

sperry 2005-02-22 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeK
Quote:

Originally Posted by sperry
I think I'll pass on a $1000++ weekend that will probably be in the rain. :(

C'mon, who can pass on $250 worth of braking exercises? :P

If I had the money, I'd be there in a heart-beat... just to get the chance to drive a few laps at Seca.

I just can't afford the entry fee, tires, fuel, food, hotel, and time off work.

qksubi 2005-02-22 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry
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Originally Posted by MikeK
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Originally Posted by sperry
I think I'll pass on a $1000++ weekend that will probably be in the rain. :(

C'mon, who can pass on $250 worth of braking exercises? :P

If I had the money, I'd be there in a heart-beat... just to get the chance to drive a few laps at Seca.

I just can't afford the entry fee, tires, fuel, food, hotel, and time off work.

Ditto that is friggin to much money man what the f--- way is it so much :?:

doubleurx 2005-02-23 09:41 AM

Yes it is expensive................but our one day track event at RFR was $200. This is two days, with dinners included and that track for $25 more. I still may go as long as I can see what the first day afternoon will be comprised of.


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