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Kevin M 2005-05-18 01:36 PM

Episode III Midnight showing
 
Anybody else capable of going to see the midnight screening of Episode III?

sperry 2005-05-18 01:37 PM

Um, is that Ep 2 or 3?

And no, I can't go, I have to be up early tomorrow morning to go see EpIII for free instead of going to work. :P

Edit: nice ninja title edit.

Kevin M 2005-05-18 01:42 PM

Nice job seeing the thread in the first 8 seconds it was up.


And uh, nevermind guys. Right after I posted that, I got called and asked to come in for an interview tomorrow at 9. midnight showing= no good.

MikeK 2005-05-18 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS
Nice job seeing the thread in the first 8 seconds it was up.


And uh, nevermind guys. Right after I posted that, I got called and asked to come in for an interview tomorrow at 9. midnight showing= no good.

Unless the guy interviewing you is a star wars nerd, then seeing at midnight would be a wise career move.

Kevin M 2005-05-18 02:54 PM

So I'll meet you at the theater at 11:30, so you can give spoilers to your entire department in the morning? :p

MikeK 2005-05-18 03:05 PM

Sorry, but after the abortion that was phantom menace, I can only see star wars movies for free during work hours

Kevin M 2005-05-18 03:35 PM

I'm thinking I'll be going after the meet thursday night. Those of you not getting paid to skip work might want to join me, and probably some of you that did see it will want to again.

tysonK 2005-05-18 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeK
Sorry, but after the abortion that was phantom menace, I can only see star wars movies for free during work hours



ha haha ..

tysonK 2005-05-18 06:07 PM

in other news some high level movie critics are saying episode 3 is better than episode 4,5 ,6 ..

hmm.

Kevin M 2005-05-18 06:42 PM

I think that's distinctly possible. Life in the galaxy really freakin' sucks in Episode III, and life sucking for everyone is whaty made Empire so good. Plus I hear Ian McDiarmid (the emporer) is absolutely amazing.

sperry 2005-05-19 10:41 AM

Just got back from seeing it.

It's certainly *much* better than I & II... Not so sure about the others. I'd say it's possibly better than Jedi, but Empire is still the best IMO.

The Anakin/Padame dialog and acting is still god awful. But no punches are pulled in Anakin's downward spiral... he really does get friggen evil. Darth Vader bitches!

The CGI is terrific. Much better than Ep I where it seemed too gratuitious... The Ep IV tie-ins abound... almost to the point at the end where it's like, "couldn't they have shown us that a bit earlier?"... you feel kinda like Lucas thinks he has a bunch of stuff to show us or we might not get the connection between III and IV... please.

All in all, it's an awesome movie. I wasn't disapointed. 'Course my expectations were lowered by I and II... Either way, Revenge of the Sith is pretty tight.

doubleurx 2005-05-19 11:20 AM

I know there is a ton of deaths, but is the violence really graphic? I don't think I can avoid bringing Bayley to see it, I just want to be prepared. He is so amped to see this movie.

MikeSTI 2005-05-19 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by doubleurx
I know there is a ton of deaths, but is the violence really graphic? I don't think I can avoid bringing Bayley to see it, I just want to be prepared. He is so amped to see this movie.

come on its star wars where bullets (lasers) never draw blood :lol: even when they lose a hand theres no blood...............just a nub :lol:

diclaimer: I have not seen the movie yet - when might you go Nick?

doubleurx 2005-05-19 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeSTI
come on its star wars where bullets (lasers) never draw blood :lol: even when they lose a hand theres no blood...............just a nub :lol:

diclaimer: I have not seen the movie yet - when might you go Nick?


Not to sure when, but soon. You wanna go with the kids some time?

MikeSTI 2005-05-19 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by doubleurx
Not to sure when, but soon. You wanna go with the kids some time?

maybe Shaun I don't know if Riley can handdle a non 3-D movie yet thats not a cartoon:lol:

I know Shaun would love to go just to hang with boys even if hes not into the movie:oops:

AtomicLabMonkey 2005-05-19 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by sperry
It's certainly *much* better than I & II... Not so sure about the others. I'd say it's possibly better than Jedi, but Empire is still the best IMO.

I'll believe it when I see it.

sperry 2005-05-19 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by doubleurx
I know there is a ton of deaths, but is the violence really graphic? I don't think I can avoid bringing Bayley to see it, I just want to be prepared. He is so amped to see this movie.

There's a *lot* of lightsaber fighting.... many robots and clones killed like in most movies, and that's probably not going to affect the kids.

However, some very important (even if they're bad guys) characters meet gruesome deaths. It's not explicitly shown of course, but it's obvious how they die, and I'm sure even younger kids would pick up on it.

And the worst is that a lot of Jedi die. It may be hard on kids to watch the good guys get killed. And of course, the central theme of the movie is Anakin's decent into becoming Darth Vader... if your kids have seen Ep I and II where Anakin is a good guy, they might find this hard to understand. Anakin does some really evil stuff, and gets horribly disfigured (very graphically) to become Vader.

Those w/ little kids may want to pre-view the movie to decide if they want their kids to see it. And if you do bring your little kids, I'd sit down and explain the plot to them before hand... about how Anakin is seduced by the dark side, and how he becomes an evil person... just so they're prepared for the film, and have a better time understanding why Anakin turns evil.

Unlike the previous two new Star Wars flicks, this is not a kid's movie (all though the dialog between Anakin and Padame sure seems like it was written by 12 year old kids). Before this movie the scariest thing in Star Wars might have been the snow beast in Empire... this movie makes the snow beast look like a puppy dog, at least that's how I think a young kid might take it. For example, Gen. Grevious is friggen scary... the Emperor is a twisted fuck... the Jedi are powerless... and Anakin goes evil like the flip of a light switch, to the point where young kids might not totally understand w/ the "good guy" is suddenly doing such bad things.

MikeSTI 2005-05-19 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry
There's a *lot* of lightsaber fighting.... many robots and clones killed like in most movies, and that's probably not going to affect the kids.

However, some very important (even if they're bad guys) characters meet gruesome deaths. It's not explicitly shown of course, but it's obvious how they die, and I'm sure even younger kids would pick up on it.

And the worst is that a lot of Jedi die. It may be hard on kids to watch the good guys get killed. And of course, the central theme of the movie is Anakin's decent into becoming Darth Vader... if your kids have seen Ep I and II where Anakin is a good guy, they might find this hard to understand. Anakin does some really evil stuff, and gets horribly disfigured (very graphically) to become Vader.

Those w/ little kids may want to pre-view the movie to decide if they want their kids to see it. And if you do bring your little kids, I'd sit down and explain the plot to them before hand... about how Anakin is seduced by the dark side, and how he becomes an evil person... just so they're prepared for the film, and have a better time understanding why Anakin turns evil.

Unlike the previous two new Star Wars flicks, this is not a kid's movie (all though the dialog between Anakin and Padame sure seems like it was written by 12 year old kids). Before this movie the scariest thing in Star Wars might have been the snow beast in Empire... this movie makes the snow beast look like a puppy dog, at least that's how I think a young kid might take it. For example, Gen. Grevious is friggen scary... the Emperor is a twisted fuck... the Jedi are powerless... and Anakin goes evil like the flip of a light switch, to the point where young kids might not totally understand w/ the "good guy" is suddenly doing such bad things.

ahhh Yahhh....I might even say my son understands its just a movie and not real might go along way towards the graphic nature of a "fictional movie", seems to help a lot.:P they can turn there heads if they can't handdle all the make up and CG that goes into it :lol:

doubleurx 2005-05-19 01:44 PM

Thanks for the heads up Scott.

sperry 2005-05-19 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeSTI
ahhh Yahhh....I might even say my son understands its just a movie and not real might go along way towards the graphic nature of a "fictional movie", seems to help a lot.:P they can turn there heads if they can't handdle all the make up and CG that goes into it :lol:

Even if you tell 'em "it's just a story", it's still scary.

I remember nearly crapping my pants when I saw the snow beast when I was 3. However, I don't remember being freaked out when Luke got his hand cut off... and that seems like something that should have freaked me out.

Speaking of lopped off limbs.... there are quite a few in this new one. :devil:

Kevin M 2005-05-19 02:28 PM

So who feels like going to the 10:20 showing tonight? Or maybe a little earlier?

Edit: 9:00 and 10:05 at Riverside. I can run for tickets for whoever else wants to go.

Kevin M 2005-05-19 05:00 PM

Anybody want to go? Tickets may already be sold out, but even if not we should get them before the meet.

Kevin M 2005-05-20 06:30 PM

Dammit, are you all going to make me go see this by myself? Please don't make me that big of a geek...

STIwish 2005-05-20 07:02 PM

I'd love to see it again.. HELLA kick ass, it actually made me excited about the Star Wars universe again.. but Im kinda far away!

AtomicLabMonkey 2005-05-21 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by tysonK
in other news some high level movie critics are saying episode 3 is better than episode 4,5 ,6 ..

hmm.

Well I'm sorry to piss in everyone's Cornflakes, but those high level movie critics need to put the rock pipe down. I just saw Ep. 3 tonight, and it was still nowhere near as good as any of the three original films. Same shallow, uninteresting characters and goddamn stupid-ass unreal looking CGI. I'm sorry, but movies just looked more REAL when they actually built sets with full size props and made people up in alien costumes, instead of trying to replicate all that on a fucking computer. :mad: Yes, I know, it allows them to do whiz-bang stuff you can't do in real life, but it doesn't matter because no matter how well they do it the effects still look fake. Goddamn, the stop-motion AT-AT walkers from Empire Strikes Back look more real than all this digitized crap.

None of Eps. 1-3 stand on their own as a good, complete movie; if I look at them objectively and not as a SW fan, they just plain suck. There is near-zero character development, so I just find myself thinking "why the fuck do I care what's happening to these people?"

About all I can say in it's defense is that it was much better than 1 & 2 put together... it lost some of the general lifelessness and bad-beyond-belief acting that they had. I might have thought it was a bit better still if the last part of the film hadn't felt so rushed. I guess they didn't have a choice though since they wanked around so much with the story in 1-2 and had so many loose ends left to tie up.

I guess I got my hopes up too much for this one, cause I'm disappointed. I should have known better after the last two catastrophes. Fuck you, George. Fuck you. :monkey:

khail19 2005-05-23 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by AtomicLabMonkey
Fuck you, George. Fuck you. :monkey:

That about sums it up for me too. Better movie than 1 & 2, but still not worthy of being called Star Wars.

Kevin M 2005-05-30 02:41 PM

I think it was definitely worth the price of admission. If an opportunity to go again comes up, I probably will. Basically, I thought the things that were right outweighed the things that were wrong significantly.

Good stuff:
-the lightsaber duels all looked real, and natural. It was easy to watch them and not see the actors overanticipating the next move, like moving to bolck a swing that hasn't happened yet, then waiting for it, like Episode IV and V had rampantly. Obi Wan vs. Anakin in particular looked great.
-the emperor (Ian McDiarmid) was outstanding. He'll never get it, but I think he deserves the first Supporting Actor nomination from a Star Wars film. He was one of the most eveil villians ever in a movie, and, with the minor exception of some bits of dialogue with Anakin, was never forced or corny or not believable.
-this film did the best job of creating emotion without going over the top. Anakin mowing down apprentices with a lightsaber? Freakin harsh man. Padme's struggles with her emotions and loyalties played out well I thought. No way to make us doubt that she would choose the Republic over Anakin, but there was the right amount of doubt and denial before she made the choice.
-Obi-Wan was finally the badass we've always been expected to belive he is. I thought Ewan McGregor did the best job of looking like a near-invincible Jedi without the over-the-top cockiness and swagger that Sam Jackson was forced to give Mace Windu. I think Obi-Wan far outshines Luke Skywalker as a movie hero.
-The special effects were very good by not standing out too much as obvious special effects. Story and events took precedence over digital eye candy for the most part, except for the opening space battle. The volcanic world of the final duel was really well rendered, but was still the setting and not made a bigger part of the scenes than it needed to be. It was believable and real and wasn't relied upon too strongly as an element of the duel.
-corny one liners. I thought most of them were great, especially some of Obi-Wan's. Star Wars has always been a B movie series, and I like not having oscar-quality dialog sometimes. The were a few moments of comic relief that I thought worked better than in any other one of the films. Yoda tossing two Red Guards against the wall entering the Emperor's chamber was way better than anything C3PO ever said.
-It was crucial that we see that Anakin finally fully trusted Obi-Wan's wisdom and guidance, and was his best friend. I thought that was sorely missing toward the end of Episode II, and if not for that, the final duel would have been far less important other than Anakin being dismembered and disfigured.


Bad things:
-Count Dooku and General Grievous kinda got robbed of some mystique. Anakin killing Dooku wasn't supposed to be difficult, but I think Christopher Lee is the next best thing to happen to the whole series besides Ian McDiarmid. I wanted a few more moments of him in full grandeur. Grievous was really robbed if you've seen the Clone Wars cartoons. there's clearly a lot to be explained in the second "season" of them. At the end of the first, he dominated some of the higher order Jedis, all at once. Now, he's weezing and coughing, and never stands a chance against Obi-Wan, even by 'cheating.' I wanted to see him kick some ass before going down too.
-Anakin becomes Darth Vader a little abruptly. There needed to be one more intermediate step between "I want to save Padme" and "You're the Sith Lord!" It was hard to believe that Anakin wouldn't have been shocked out of his loyalty to the Chancellor at that moment. However, it does set the stage well for his betrayal of the Emperor in Jedi. It never really made sense before... there was no real solid explanation for his sudden lack of evilness until now. Also, in order to 'properly' explain something as complex as turning a dedicated Jedi to the Dark Side, it would have taken up far too much of the movie, which was a huge reason the first one sucked ass and the second one just wasn't very good. I'd rather have to abbreviate Anakin -> Vader than make the rest of the film suffer instead.
-I was hoping they would take away R2D2's ability to fly before the end of III. Making that possible was really dumb, but if he'd gotten smashed up or something, it would be easier to accept him rolling off the ramp behind C3PO or into the swamp on Dagoba later.
-Padme "lost her will to live"? Dude, she just had 2 babies... you can come up with something better than that. It wouldn't be that hard to make her die slowly enough that Luke and Leia could be born.
-Anakin killing Dooku either should have conflicted him less, or not at all. Shame and regret over the act of killing an unarmed prisoner would have swayed him away from joining Palpatine, not the other way around. It should have been more like when he went after the Sand People.


All in all, I thought it was worthy. Almost made up for the failure of the other two. Maybe not as good as Empire, but still good in its own right. Besides, I got my Jedi-on-Jedi violence fix. :p

Evo Mike 2005-06-04 10:46 PM

haha, i just saw starwars last night. I'm a huge fan of star wars and even have the whole Rare set of the cards.. worth quite a bit of money now.. but anyhow, it was much better than the retarded episode 1 and 2.. but not close to as good as IV or V.

The only thing that got me kinda mad was, "darth vader" was supposed to be the "savior" or the chosen one right.. he's supposed to have all of this bad ass power and be THE man u know? but then he get's beat by Obi-wan.. wtf? dont understand that.

Someone posted that obi-wan was the superhero dude.. yoda is the sh*t! Anyone try the Darth Dew at 7-11? terrible.. haha

sperry 2005-06-05 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Evo Mike
Anyone try the Darth Dew at 7-11? terrible.. haha

"Darth Dew" sound like something that collects in Vader's pants when he overloads the A/C in his suit while walking around on Tatooine.

doubleurx 2005-06-05 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry
"Darth Dew" sound like something that collects in Vader's pants when he overloads the A/C in his suit while walking around on Tatooine.

Clearly he needs to talk to Eric about the powder!

Kevin M 2005-06-06 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by sperry
"Darth Dew" sound like something that collects in Vader's pants when he overloads the A/C in his suit while walking around on Tatooine.

I thought it was Padme's version of the Honeydew list.

tysonK 2005-06-06 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS
I think..........a lot of analysis....good things... bad things

clearly this film does not deserve that much analysis.

Star Wars is supposed to be an action/adventure flick with some feelings.

The way I look at it is, was I entertained enough to wonder what was going to happen next.

Did the characters show enough feeling to leave you wanting to hear from them in another scene.

No and No.


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