Rolling Fenders
 

I was going to see if anyone was interested in doing this? I'm ordering some 245 RT-615s and I think there is going to be a good chance they could rub. There is a guy on Nasioc/Clubwrx.net that runs this site www.rolllyourfender.com and I've only heard good things about it. If anyone else is interested we could rent the tool and do everyones in a day.

We did have a fender rolling day a while ago. I'm not sure how many people still need to do it? We rented the tool from the S-Squared shop.

Those are some sweet tires! Nice job.

You getting some TE37's to with them?

PM sybir, he might be able to get you a god deal on renting the tool, and with all the people that god between Reno and Sac, we can probably get it to you at one of the meets or something.

I can't really send the tool up, I have to come with it ;)

That said, if can get a couple of people together, I'll check w/ Nate on renting the tool and bringing it up, as I haven't hit Reno in a while....maybe in early August, as July is dwindling quickly. ;)

I think I will just put them on and see if they rub and go from there. Sadly no TE37's for me. I just forked out 1500 for my insurance and the RE92s are going to be almost corded after this autocross. I am going to go with some 17x8 Rota Torques for awhile.

Whoa Scott, you were having some kind of religious Sunday or what? :)

I still have the Nippon Racing "Lightstars" sitting in the garage if you need a set of inexpensive lightweight wheels...

His soul was revived by the Rev. Dobson over the 4th of July.

Any suggestions on a local place for me to get my fenders rolled ever so slightly...before Saturday?

Just slap Scott's 255's on there and go over a speed bump. Fenders= rolled

:lol:

You can always go to Walbogs, pick up a louisville slugger, and do it the old fashioned way.

I thought about it...I also asked the body shop that will soon be working on my car if they could do it and somehow keep the paint from cracking. He says they could spray some clearcoat on it, but it doesn't really help. I'll just hope you get the roller for Saturday. Otherwise I'll just have to take corners kinda slow. :(

BTW, I don't have a heatgun, but is there any point to using one to try to prevent the paint from cracking as much as possible?

The roller will crack the paint too. Unless you've got the time to get a heat gun and go *very* slowly, you will crack the paint on the inside of the fender for sure, and possibly the outside lip as well.

I spent like an hour per fender w/ a heat gun on my car and still had to touch up the inside of the lip to prevent rust. But at least I didn't crack any visible paint.

Well any chance of Nick bringing up the roller Friday night or somthing so I can take my time?

Let me use my superpowers to contact Nick and Aaron via ESP mind-meld while they're in a plane over the Pacific and I'll let you know. :P

Like I said, I PM'd Aaron... I'll know more when he's back and checks the board.

TELL ME NOW!!!

Okay fine. Thanks.

BTW, to further the cause, it's all Dean's fault. He said these tires would fit. :P

Okay, I talked to Aaron, the tool will be making its way to Reno when Nick comes back from Sacramento. We should be able to have a little fender rolling party at my place Friday evening. I'll have my heat gun to help prevent paint cracking.

The price for tool rental will be $30 per person. Aaron's been gracious enough to donate $10 out of that $30 to the club! I figure we can do like 3 or 4 cars, if there are that many people interested, so post up your name if you want in, and help support the club. :)

One thing I need to make extremely clear:

Fender rolling, even by an experienced person w/ the right tools *will* damage the paint on your car. You *will* crack/damage the paint on the inside lip of the fender guarenteed. There is also a high likelyhood that the paint on the outside of the fender may be damaged as well. We will have a heat gun that can help prevent the damage, but that also has it's own associated risks. Aaron is loaning out this tool w/ zero liability/responsibility for the damage that will occure. Everyone will be responsible for their own cars, and needs to understand the risk they're taking.

I will be using the tool to touch up my fenders for a little more room in the rear, and I've used this tool before, so you guys can get a look at the damage it does and how it works before making the final commitment to roll your fenders.

Cool, count me in. Only one side seems to rub (the passenger side), but I'll just want a touch of rolling on both rear fenders.

Anybody got the roller around still?

The roller made its way back to Sacramento a least a month ago.

Aw shitty. Kinda what I thought.

Rolling Fenders is Illegal.

For autocross you mean? Because it's legal in SP and SM classes.

Don't read into it too far, I'm just ruining the thread by telling lies.

That's illegal.

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I can get the roller up to Reno again at some point, rental fee is $30. $10 of that goes to the club coffers. Part of the rest goes towards me buying dinner for the Reno resident who's dealing with loaning it out in Reno :D

:lol: I'll be in your neighborhood this weekend Aaron, if anybody needs your, uh, tool.

If you could bring that sucker back Kevin I'd appreciate it. $30 is waaaaaay better than $100 or whatever a shop charges. I also don't want to do the bat method, but I will if I have to. The 225s rub HORRIBLY when people sit in the back.

Wanna bring down 4 wheels in the Miata? :p


I won't be around Saturday, but give me a call Sunday afternoon and I'll catch you on the way back up the hill.

Will do.

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Teh fix. ;)

I'd rather spend $30 than whatever those are.

A LOT. trust me...

Jonny, any idea what camber you're running?

No... how would I find out, besides just looking? To be honest I don't know that much about my car yet. Besides what general RS stuff I already knew.

$1600 for suspension is not "a lot". Tein Flex's are tremendously good value.

4-way Moton dampers start at around $2,000... each, and those are just the dampers... no springs, no topmounts.

Then there's the stuff that top tier race teams use... easily $10,000 per corner.

To some (like me) $1600 is a tad bit outside my budget.

Expensive and beyond one's budget are two different things.

I guess... I mean to me it's expensive. AND outside my budget. It's all relative.

You can get a rough idea just by looking at the wheels while standing in front of or behind the car by like 20 feet. 1 degree of neg. camber is pretty easy to notice. You'll see that the top of the tires are closer together than the bottoms (in the rear, for example).

Instead of rolling my fenders, I got an alignment that got me -1.8 of camber all around. It's a bit excessive for a commuter car, but tire where seems fine so far (not that I've had enough time to say for sure) and handeling is noticeably better.

Alignments aren't cheap but you can save money by going to a place that gives you free re-alignments or just buy Corey some beer and see if he'll do it. Oh wait, you're like 9 years old nevermind. :P

Or just roll them.

Jonny's RS should be right around stock alignment specs. I got the car aligned right before we left Texas with the car and I didn't ask for anything different.

Sweet deal.

That might be a good idea to get a bit of negative camber dialed in all around before you roll the fenders. The reason I didn't try that was because that place that I had "free alignments for the life of the tires" wouldn't do anything but stock settings. I tried giving them the settings from Prodrive but that was a no-go.

The individuals recommending alignment as a fix aren't keeping the vehicle in mind. This is not a WRX, with big fenders. This is an RS, where a 215 can rub if the car is low. Especially for a street-driven car that's getting miles put on it, an aggressive rear camber setting is going to be a more expensive (both for the alignment, bolts if you need it, and continued tire wear) option than just clearing out the fenders a touch.

Just my opinion. Roll the fenders and remove the interference rather than trying to work around it for a street car. Alignment should be for handling, not tire clearance.

Well said.

Yeah I want my tires to last as long as possible. I also want to keep the 225s on there. I think rolling the fenders would be the best thing. Thanks for the input.

A new Ferrari 550 Maranello (my personal fave!) for 100K is a tremendously good value, but also still EXPENSIVE! :lol: I was just saying that they're not exactly GIVING the TEINs away, but yes, they are amazing for the money you spend, and there are items out there that are WAY more!

For a regular dude, making regular wages, the listed $1780 for a TEIN flex kit for a GC chassis is a *lot* of money for something that's not a *need* ! :D

Jonny, whatever you end up doing/needing, just let me know dude! You know I'm all about helping out the club! I can hook up alignments for dirt cheap, put in camber bolts, whatever!

For those of you who may not already know my position on this issue... :p