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doubleurx 2005-08-04 03:24 PM

Laguna Seca Trackmaster's event Sept 10 & 11
 
No cost posted yet. Not even sure I can go, but I thought some of you may be.

sperry 2005-08-04 03:26 PM

I saw that. I wasn't going to post anything though because I didn't want all you a-holes getting in before me! :P I swear, everytime I try to register for a Seca event, I get boned out of it somehow!

Dean 2005-08-04 03:49 PM

I don't even see it on their web page...

sperry 2005-08-04 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean
I don't even see it on their web page...

In the email they sent to TMR members, they mention that pricing isn't set, and that they'll have the registration info up early next week.

MattR 2005-08-04 05:55 PM

I can;t go on that day :(

doubleurx 2005-08-04 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MattR
I can;t go on that day :(

That is the same weekend that I go to the Ventura german auto fest. Painful as it may sound, it is actually a really cool event. But now my business parnter is waffeling because his car has transmission issues, so who knows?

FYI:

www.germanautofest.com

funny!, click on the center picture at the bottom of the page and go to picture .....533

MikeK 2005-08-04 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by doubleurx
funny!, click on the center picture at the bottom of the page and go to picture .....533

I see you!

qksubi 2005-08-11 07:30 AM

Im going just because of the weather in Dec might be crappy I got the email but the registration isnt open yet :~:

qksubi 2005-08-11 07:35 AM

I just looked at it and it is 550 for the weekend ouch :eek: looks like im going back on the credit card hell ride again :mad:

qksubi 2005-08-11 07:40 AM

Do you guys think my is over 90db :?: and how can I get that checked?

AtomicLabMonkey 2005-08-11 08:01 AM

You will not be able to accurately reproduce the reading that the trackside decibel meter at Seca will take, because sound is very directional and dependent on many environmental variables.

The best you can do is procure a decibel meter and compare the readings from your car to a known-good car at that track.

MikeK 2005-08-11 08:17 AM

I find it unbelievable that the limit on track is 90, when the limit on the street is 95.

BTW Eric, your car is way over 90 dB, but whether it will be OK will depend on how far away from the car the dB meter is. You might have to push the clutch in and coast past the spot each time. Pretty awesome for $550! :rolleyes:

doubleurx 2005-08-11 08:47 AM

Keep in mind the shack that measures it between turns 5 & 6 (uphill) is about 80 feet from the side of the track. Granted my car is quieter, but I had no problem at WOT. Dean however, got pulled and I think his silencer was in (Dean?)

They will test it for you and then you will know if you need to lift after turn 5.

Dean 2005-08-11 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by doubleurx
Keep in mind the shack that measures it between turns 5 & 6 (uphill) is about 80 feet from the side of the track. Granted my car is quieter, but I had no problem at WOT. Dean however, got pulled and I think his silencer was in (Dean?)

They will test it for you and then you will know if you need to lift after turn 5.

Yep, even with the silencer in, I was over. had to short shift to 4th. What I need is 90 degree elbow that pushes the sound to the driver's side. The alternative is to get some glass packing and put it in front of the silencer before I put it in.

The Stealth would be over, but it hits a very quiet resonance right in that portion of the RPM band in third.

sperry 2005-08-11 12:56 PM

Well.. I signed up for the event at Seca.. let's just hope that I don't get boned by work, or break the car before then!

...now, who's coming with me!?

qksubi 2005-08-11 09:15 PM

Im in scott :cool:

doubleurx 2005-08-12 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperry
Well.. I signed up for the event at Seca.. let's just hope that I don't get boned by work, or break the car before then!

...now, who's coming with me!?


Do you have the car back? If so, how's it runnin'

I really want to go; I just don't think I can pull this one off. As it stands I'm probably not going to that Porsche event anyways.

qksubi 2005-08-12 08:34 AM

Im going to this one instead of Dec 1 event because of the weather ;)

Kevin M 2005-08-16 03:21 PM

So I have attempted to register, but haven't received the reply email with confirmation and payment instructions. How long did it take for you guys?

doubleurx 2005-08-16 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS
So I have attempted to register, but haven't received the reply email with confirmation and payment instructions. How long did it take for you guys?

Does this mean you got the Miata? If so...congrats!

sperry 2005-08-16 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS
So I have attempted to register, but haven't received the reply email with confirmation and payment instructions. How long did it take for you guys?

I got my notification on Saturday:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Gale
Greeting Drivers,

This message is to confirm that we have received your registration for Laguna Seca on Sept 10th and/or 11th, and will be sending you additional 'slot' confirmations and associated payment information this weekend.

We opened registration for this event yesterday morning and immediately received over 70 registrations! Many were 2-day entries. Just so you know, we had to set aside a specific number of car and bike slots for Mazda for this event. The good news is that Mazda must assign their drivers to these slots by August 26th. On August 27th, we will offer any open slots to drivers on the event waitlist.

Because you were in the 1st wave of registrations, you'll most likely NOT be affected by the Mazda allocation, and will be confirmed to attend this event. However, we did receive a significant number of Novice registrations, and may not be able to get all Novices into the event at this time. We're also limiting the number of instructors at the event to preserve track space, so that in turn will restrict the number of Novices allowed. We'll keep the Novices informed as we continue with the registration process.

Again, you will receive another message confirming your position at the event, and your payment instructions this weekend. Once you receive this, you'll have to make a payment by August 24th or you will lose your slot.
Payment methods will be via Paypal or Check.

Best regards,

Doug Gale
TrackMasters Racing

Followed by this yesterday:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Gale
Greetings TMR drivers, (Low Intermediate)

This message is to confirm that you HAVE made the initial 'cut list' for the Sat/Sun Laguna Seca event on Sept. 10/11.

We received about 100 registrations for this event within 3 days of opening, and have had to review each request and assess where we are with the event. As I mentioned in an earlier message, we need to hold about 25 slots at this event for Mazda employees until August 26th. After the 26th, we can offer any available spaces to waitlisted drivers. This DOES NOT affect you because each of you registered early enough to make it into the event.

Now that you're in, you need to make a payment to secure your spot at the event. All payment options & fees are listed below along with the number of days we have you registered for. Please let us know ASAP if your run group or the number of days registered is NOT correct.

Once your payment has been received, we'll send another message indicating that your 'paid-up' for the event. Keep in mind that all payments must be made by August 24th or you may lose your slot to a waitlisted driver.

Thanks for your time, and we'll see many of you in the paddock very soon!

Doug Gale
Founder - TrackMasters Racing

Driver List and Days Registered:



Bisares Sunday
Chen Saturday
Cualoping Both Days
Jenson Both Days
Jenson Both Days
Leung Saturday
Meister Both Days
Moss Saturday
Nichols Both Days
Nordstrom Sunday
Panton Saturday
Papagiannopoulos Both Days
Payne Both Days
Perry Both Days
Plough Both Days
Saiu Saturday
Satterlee Both Days
Shah Both Days
Swanburg Saturday
Wright Both Days



Fee Structure:

One Day Fee
Motorcycle $235 1 day
Car $300 1 day
Car & Bike $535 1 day

Two Day Fees
Motorcycle $450 2 days
Car $550 2 days
Car & Bike $1,050 2 days
2 Cars / 2 Days $1,050 2 days



Payments can be made via check or Paypal.

Unfortuantely I don't see any names I recognize on that list of Low Intermediate's besides my own.

Also... something tells me, I'm going to be stuck in traffic all day long, since B2 is going to be running w/ the Novices. :mad: But I guess I'd rather be there in novice traffic than at home. Maybe they'll be able to bump me up to B1.

Kevin M 2005-08-16 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by doubleurx
Does this mean you got the Miata? If so...congrats!

Yup. 1996 M Edition, montego blue, factory hardtop and brand new glass window softtop, ABS, limited slip. Pics this weekend, when I get it up here.

Kevin M 2005-08-16 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry
I got my notification on Saturday:



Followed by this yesterday:



Unfortuantely I don't see any names I recognize on that list of Low Intermediate's besides my own.

Also... something tells me, I'm going to be stuck in traffic all day long, since B2 is going to be running w/ the Novices. :mad: But I guess I'd rather be there in novice traffic than at home. Maybe they'll be able to bump me up to B1.

I registered Low Intermediate... but I doubt I'll make the cut. I've never run a TrackMaster's event, and had to withdraw from the only one I tried to register for earlier in the year. Looks like I'll make Thunder Hill later in the month then. Damn, I was excited about going to Seca. :(

If I do get in, I'll be a slow ass most of the day too, until I get more used to the "new" car. But I'm sure by the end of the day I'll be cursing Minis again. :lol:

doubleurx 2005-08-16 03:47 PM

Unfortuantely I don't see any names I recognize on that list of Low Intermediate's besides my own.
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Yikes that filled quickly! I guess I definately will not be attending unless something changes. It will be fun regardless of which group you run in Scott. That track is just a friggin blast. Very jealous!

Congrats on the new car Kevin. Can't wait to see it.

bemanii 2005-08-17 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperry
I got my notification on Saturday:



Followed by this yesterday:



Unfortuantely I don't see any names I recognize on that list of Low Intermediate's besides my own.

Also... something tells me, I'm going to be stuck in traffic all day long, since B2 is going to be running w/ the Novices. :mad: But I guess I'd rather be there in novice traffic than at home. Maybe they'll be able to bump me up to B1.

I recognize your name though!
Doug put me in low intermediate too; he told me he could move me up to high intermediate if they still have space there on the 26th.

sperry 2005-08-17 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bemanii
I recognize your name though!
Doug put me in low intermediate too; he told me he could move me up to high intermediate if they still have space there on the 26th.

Ahh, so that Leung is you! Nice! At least there'll be one familiar face there. I wonder if I'll be able to move up to B1 as well. I have a feeling the new 2.5L Doink mobile will be a little faster than the people out there for their first track event. :lol:

qksubi 2005-08-25 08:18 AM

Sept 9 might be added if enough drivers sign up that day is assgned for 92db :~:

qksubi 2005-09-08 01:34 PM

Just to let everyone know that Scott and I will be rocking Seca this weekend!I want thank my sponsers Visa and Mastercard and maybe a little Amerix and a big thanks to MATTQUEST.COM for suppling me with Trailor and tie downs and I my wife for letting me go :D

doubleurx 2005-09-08 02:07 PM

Have a great and safe time. Should be a blast. That track is so much fun - Turn 9!

Remember to lift between 5 & 6 if you are too loud.

Dean 2005-09-08 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doubleurx
Have a great and safe time. Should be a blast. That track is so much fun - Turn 9!

Remember to lift between 5 & 6 if you are too loud.

Short shift, don't lift... No lifting, especially in turn 9... Have fun.

doubleurx 2005-09-08 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean
Short shift, don't lift... No lifting, especially in turn 9... Have fun.


I didn't say lift on turn 9! that would sucko bigo, Nonetheless I stand corrected - yes short shift between 5 & 6.

Dean 2005-09-08 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doubleurx
I didn't say lift on turn 9! that would sucko bigo...

I didn't say you did. I was only saying that Laguna Seca is really a track where there is no lifting... The only possible place I can think a lift might work instead of a brake is before trun 4. OK, maybe a hair between 8 and 9 if you must, but I think a little left foot is safer. There really is no place where a classic lift will help you much. In many respects, it is a point and shoot track except for the corkscrew. Not many linked elements at all really.

Sears is quite different in that respect. many things are linked, and the wheel is seldom straight for any length of time except on the 6-7 & 10-11 straights.

bemani 2005-09-10 08:55 PM

MotoGP rocks! Made them fix up the berms, its so nice to be able to use the curbs.

Dean 2005-09-11 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bemani
MotoGP rocks! Made them fix up the berms, its so nice to be able to use the curbs.

Which curbs did the change? Hopefull not the gator backs in he corkscrew. That would be terrible!

bemani 2005-09-11 11:46 AM

Basically all of them.

MattR 2005-09-11 09:16 PM

Eric and Scott did not have too much to say when I talked to them...I think they were speechless due to the awesomeness of Seca.

sti deede 2005-09-11 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattR
Eric and Scott did not have too much to say when I talked to them...I think they were speechless due to the awesomeness of Seca.

So then it sounds like both of them were able to run. In Erics car I'm guessing.

sperry 2005-09-11 10:28 PM

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Dean, according to the "locals", the curbs are completely changed, and have made Seca a *much* faster track. *All* the gators are gone, making every turn about 3 feet wider.

Too tired to post a lot, so here are the two good pictures I got of Eric:

bemani 2005-09-11 11:18 PM

There were some fake grass or something on the exit of turn 11 too ... I didn't try making the turn wider and driving over it though.

GST Mike 2005-09-12 07:47 AM

Did everything go ok with the car Eric?

Mike

AtomicLabMonkey 2005-09-12 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperry
Dean, according to the "locals", the curbs are completely changed, and have made Seca a *much* faster track. *All* the gators are gone, making every turn about 3 feet wider.

Wow.. they're all just smooth curbs now?

Dean 2005-09-12 10:05 PM

Dang... There goes a lot of the character of the place.

sperry 2005-09-13 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AtomicLabMonkey
Wow.. they're all just smooth curbs now?

The inside half of the curbs are flat, with only minor serration on the outside half. Plus the paint they useds on 'em has grit in them to make them sticky for the motorcycle tires so they don't take a spill using the curbs. All part of making the track MotoGP legal.

The paint on the apex curb of turn 6 is completely worn off, if that tells you anything about how easy it is to use the curbs now.

sperry 2005-09-13 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GST Mike
Did everything go ok with the car Eric?

Mike

Eric's out of town right now, so I'll answer for him.

In a word, the car was awesome.

Early on we thought there was a problem, because while I was driving it, it cut out twice. Turns out, with Eric's key chain on the key, I was hitting it w/ my knee and turning the car off... but because the turbo timer was active, I drove around for 30 seconds before it cut out. :lol:

Then there was the check-engine light and rough idle we noticed about mid-way through day one. But once we re-attached and zip-tied that little vacuum line as you recommended, the car ran great, and the responsiveness came back.

I was driving the car in the High Intermediate group and Eric's STi would pull on just about every car out there except for the brand-new Viper that was in my group. Unfortunately my driving isn't quite as good as those in my group, so a lot of the cars would get away from me in the corners... especially this one Miata from Boise... but that was cool because then I would just light-foot it down the straights and do my best to learn the line from the more experienced drivers in front of me. The last guy I wanted to be was the tool in the fast ass car that would pull away on all the straights and then hold up people behind me in the corners!

Anyway, aside from the two little issues I mentioned, the car ran like a champ, handling double duty between me and Eric. Unfortunately with two runs left on day two, we decided that the brake pads we had were through, and instead of swapping them out, we just called it a weekend a little early. No point in trashing the rotors or spending time doing the swap.

doubleurx 2005-09-13 10:39 AM

Sounds like a blast Scott. Was that the little vacuum line at the back of the intake manifold (the same one that blew off mine at the track as well)?

sperry 2005-09-13 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doubleurx
Sounds like a blast Scott. Was that the little vacuum line at the back of the intake manifold (the same one that blew off mine at the track as well)?

I'm not sure which one you blew... it was right next to the throttle body, on the passenger side, kinda near the PCV, but on the intake manifold. It was a *tiny* little hose, which is why neither Eric or I noticed it when we checked over the motor. We were getting 0171 codes because of it (IIRC).

doubleurx 2005-09-13 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperry
I'm not sure which one you blew... it was right next to the throttle body, on the passenger side, kinda near the PCV, but on the intake manifold. It was a *tiny* little hose, which is why neither Eric or I noticed it when we checked over the motor. We were getting 0171 codes because of it (IIRC).


Same one. I remember all of us looking at my motor at the track and we couldn't find it even with the hiss. I have the same fix for it. Pretty big difference in boost when you close up the system.

So how did you like driving the STI at Laguna............sorry dumb question.

GST Mike 2005-09-13 10:55 AM

I'll never understand why Subaru didn't make that fitting on the manifold barbed, for something as critical as pressure to a FPR it's plain silly.

doubleurx 2005-09-13 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GST Mike
I'll never understand why Subaru didn't make that fitting on the manifold barbed, for something as critical as pressure to a FPR it's plain silly.


Agreed. What was it designed for - exactly 14psi, at 14.1 psi it blows!

knucklesplitter 2005-09-17 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doubleurx
Agreed. What was it designed for - exactly 14psi, at 14.1 psi it blows!

Mine has never blown, even when kissing 24psi.

These track days thingies sound like fun. I need to try it.


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