Pissed one of you off today...
 

I never forget a face, but am horrible with names. I pissed one of you off today (Fundis Truck Driver)...twice even, what are the odds.

I appologize.

I know that truck drivers deal with a-hole drivers day in and day out, I hear about it from my two drivers all the time.

First off I passed you on a double yellow while heading to lunch. Didn't mean to piss you off with that one; If I'm driving a slower vehicle and there's a long straight-away I expect to get passed by cars, even if it's a double yellow. So it never occured to me that it might upset some drivers, sorry.

Then secondly, on my way back from lunch I turned onto McCarran from Nugget under a protected right turn (green light) and headed instantly over to the fast lane cause I have to take a left at the next light. I saw a semi in the middle lane and either I didn't notice your turn signal or you turned it on after I was already past the rear of your truck, but you started to come over into my lane when I was about to the front of your trailer. Not that big of a deal, spooked me a bit at first, but I'm level headed enough to avoid without incident.

Having ridden motorcycles for years, I understand how it happens. Drivers have a hard time estimating the closing speeds of other vehicles, especially motorcycles and some cars which also accelerate quickly. You glance in your mirror and there's nothing there, and by the time you turn your signal on and start to change lanes there's now a bike or car there.

I appologize for that, if I had seen that you had a turn signal on I would have never attempted to pass.

You must have been steamed to follow me all the way to my work, and then to tell me that I'm going to wrap myself around a tree. Funny how perspective changes everything. You perceived that I was driving like a crazed lunatic because I passed you on a double yellow on a long straight-away with zero traffic, and because an hour later I went by you again at over 3 times your speed (you 20mph, me 60mph) while you were attempting to change lanes (which I wasn't aware of until you started coming over). I'm pretty sure I can drive 60mph without endangering myself or anyone else... but like I said, perspective changes everything.

were you on the NEW toy?

You think passing over a double yellow is okay? Especially if you are impatient?

If thats the case, you give Evo and Ducati owners a very bad name.

Yeah, it was me, I don't drive for Fundis, but that doesn't matter. I appreciate your apology and accept it. I shouldn't have followed you to your work, that wasn't very professional, but two run-ins in a day and I was hot. (I was heading right over there). I too am sorry for losing my temper.

I assure you I was signaling, the timing could have been such that you didn't see it, stuff happens,regardless, I wished that you had cut me a little slack, as my truck and others are very slow to get over that hill. You were likely invisible to me until you came by on the left. Usually, people just blast up the right side there anyway. We can share the fault there.

The pass on Nugget is what bothers me. I'm not really mad about it, but just disappointed that people choose to take chances for an extra 30 seconds of time. Have you seen how many vehicles cross that street? I know it was clear then, but there have been a lot of run-under accidents on that street, where cars end up surprised by a crossing truck, or a bicyclist and/ or pedestrian dodging traffic as there is no sidewalk. As far as I'm concerened, it is never okay to do what you did there, but that is your choice, and there's no need for a lecture.

I am surprised you recognized me from the board, honestly, but that's how I new your name. There just aren't a lot of MR's around.

I'm over it.

That's funny, I never expect to get passed on a double yellow, you know 'cause a double yellow explicitly means "no passing".

Just like I don't expect people to blow stop signs and red lights, 'cause they explicitly mean "stop"... and a million other rules of the road. Anytime I see someone directly violate a traffic law, it raises the "WTF is that idiot doing" flag... i.e. passing over a double yellow (especially passing a truck!?) is an idiot move.

What are you in such a hurry for anyway?

What a small world.

You'd be very surprised how many SECCS drivers I see every week, and they don't know it :cool:

Do you drive for one company or what?

Yes.

Which one is it? I just want to make sure to stay clear of you! :lol:

Unless it's top secret and you don't want us knowing. :alien:

Don't act like a douchenozzle in traffic and you don't have anything to worry about when Supertrucker is watching you. :lol:

Well I wasn't planning on it, but I was just curious, maybe I could wave if I saw him.

Man you can tell work is slow, I'm being awfully whorey today.

Quoted for truf.

No, in the Evo.

Somebody fire up the photoshop. I don't have it here...

http://kevinjmcdaniel.googlepages.com/watching.jpg

So you never drive over the speed limit? That's a traffic law. I call BS if you say no...

I drive Nugget Ave all the time, and the majority of the time it's a ghost town. You can see from one end to the other and there's only one street that intersects and 2 driveways at the end closest to McCarran.

There where no intersections where I passed and if you say it was unsafe because there are two yellow lines painted on the road you must have problems thinking for yourself. If you can't decide for yourself what's safe and unsafe without a traffic sign then I'm sorry. I'm talking safety, not legality.

If we were climbing a 2 lane mountain pass and you were in a semi and I was in kia stuck behind you, I wouldn't dare attempt a pass with a closing speed of 2 mph, that's unsafe.

A long flat straight away with no intersections, a car which can pass in 2 to 3 seconds, zero traffic; it's not unsafe to pass, it's illegal.

I have different ethics I guess, I've always been the type of driver that if faster traffic is behind me I move over and if I can't move over I'll wave them by if it's safe to do so, whether it's double yellow or not.

I guess it's motorcycle habits.

Funny though that I see rex's all over town that I know I've seen at the meets, and they always want to play drag race whether I'm driving the STi, the Evo or the bike. So don't pretend that your club is holy'er than thou... some of you are part of the dark side...

Speeding is not the same as crossing a double yellow :rolleyes:

Besides, being a hypocrite doesn't change the fact that you (aparently) drive like a jackass.

I can't believe you are actually trying to pose yourself as an independent thinker cause you crossed the double yellow. It's almost laughable, actually... its pretty laughable. Do me a favor though, keep your free-thinking drive-where-I-want-to mentality off the roads when I'm driving around town. Last thing I want is to end up nose to nose with you. Quit pretending you were justified with your jackassery, and drop your holier then thou attitude.

really? who on the board, call them out.

Don't assume all Subaru's in town are in the club, because as a percent of the Subaru's in town that post on this board regulary I would guess it's much less than 1%.

*raises hand* :D

More on topic - Crossing a yellow line and breaking the speed limit are both traffic violations, and In my opinion, both can be compared to one another. I myself have broken the speed limit, and passed on a double yellow - shit, I've even run a red light. The matter of the fact is its when, and how you do it. When I passed on a double yellow, there was a jackass infront of me on the way to fallon that was travel under or about the speed limit. Yes, I'm impatient when I drive, so I PASSED him on a double yellow. The road was strait, long, and no on-coming cars in site. So yes, I passed him and continued. However, you will not see my passing on a double line, on say, Plumb lane, for example. If there is any sign when I can cause danger to myself, or someone else, I will not do the illegal action. Same with speeding. Yes, I drive 55/60 on McCarren, because I'm comfortable with that. Same with the red light. No one was there! It was late! No one was coming and the light wouldn't change. I ran it. No one was hurt, everything is ok.

However, there are courtesies that drivers should follow - If you're holding up traffic, please pull over and let others pass and dont drive the the passing lane if you're doing the speed limit, or holding up traffic. I hate people who do this. I kind of want to print an add in the sat/sun paper to let everyone know DO NOT DRIVE IN THE PASSING LANE IF YOU ARE NOT PASSING ANYONE.

Anywho, I just thought I'd type my opinions on the matter. I wasn't there so I dont know who was in the wrong. Just be courteous, and safe.

Oh, and no name calling.

'kay. :D

http://www.jdpaul.com/randompix/mattwatching.jpg

weirdest post ever.

I don't know for sure if they're in the club, but the cars look familar...of course a lot of Rex's look alike.
The last one I recall was a blue WRX wagon with tinted windows, exhaust, clearly modded. I was driving the STi around Double Diamond and he was attempting to show me that his wagon was as fast as an STi. Not positive if he's a member but I think I saw the car at a couple of the old meets when they were at the mall.

Meh, everybody drives a little spirited every once in a while, and you are a liar if you say otherwise. At least you appologized. Moral of the story:Don't be a dick

Are you for real? So speeding is okay because you do it? But crossing a double yellow on a straight away with no traffic isn't? They're both illegal, correct? And I'm the hypocrite? Hello pot, this is kettle! And yes, my "free thinking mentality" (I think that was supposed to be derogatory) can decipher what's safe and when it's safe.

I feel like Maverick on Top Gun...

Not that I speed on the street a lot, but yes, there are different levels of danger, hence why the laws are much different. Speeding carries a small fine if caught. Crossing a double yellow carries a heavier fine. If you think they are one in the same, you need to take drivers ed again, cause that's just fucked up. Also, even if I speed and even if I'm a hypocrite, you still are a dumbass on the road. I'm not calling you a hypocrite (because obviously you don't care if you drive like a jackass), I'm saying my hypocracy doesn't make you any less of an idiot. You're still a jackass on the road if you cross a double yellow, regardless of whatever the hell I do or say.

Just two days ago in Sacramento, some kids crossed over a double yellow. They thought it was safe. It was straight, clear and narrow in their mind, yet they ended up hitting on coming traffic and killing 4 people. You can't honestly tell me that you know exactly what is happening on that road all the time. You can take a good guess, but you can't know, especially when passing a truck. You have huge blind spots. It really is funny to think you imagine yourself some sort or heroic rebel, because you 'break the rules' when you want to, but in reality you're just another idiot that is out to give the rest of us a bad name.

I think you suffer from "Post Rage", which is very similar to "Road Rage" so I'm told...

Maybe, but I just want to help you understand why people are pissed off at you. If you want to think I'm just raging, and ignore my advice so be it, but do that at your own risk.

It takes a lot of balls to originally post this thread, but to honestly think you have a defensible position is sad. You do, though, have some credibility for apologizing. I think I'm done acting like your mom, so I'll shut up, but please realize you aren't the only person on the road, and that you can't know everything it all times. Every day I have to read stories by jackass kids who are driving like maniacs where my friends and family drive every day, and the last thing I need is for my grandpa to be hit in a head-on with some kid in a bugeye who was 'impatient'

This morning on my commute I was following another motorcycle up Grant Line. Double yellows didn't seem to mean anything to him. It reminded me of this thread. That is all.

Is that one of the benefits of a motorcycle license? Don't have to worry about traffic laws anymore?

But wait, that would mean most soccer moms have motorcycle licenses :?:

Were you making a high-speed pass over an air-control tower with Penny Benjamin in the backseat? :rolleyes:

I was just obliging Kevin's request. Those are Matt's eyes. :P

dustinr, Nick isn't the only one with "post rage". Driving like an impatient prick is not going to win you any points with most of us on here. Nick is saying exactly what me and probably a few others are thinking. If you really believe that you can be 100% sure that crossing a double yellow is going to be safe, then you are extremely naive. And if that's how you drive the EVO, I can just imagine how much worse you are on the bike.

I hope for the rest of the club's sake that you don't have any SECCS stickers on your rides. Please remove them if you are going to continue to drive like an ass, the rest of us really don't need the attention from law enforcement. And know that one day you will be wrong, and you will hurt or kill someone (hopefully only yourself) because you were "impatient". Have fun living with that on your conscience.

<---MC rider

I did my part and only passed where allowed without any disadvantage to traffic position. Kinda like the turtis and hare.

I know, I know. I was just joking around with that statement.

I just hope the affore mentioned STI isn't black. I have bad luck with people in black STIs acting up near me...

I think everyone else has pretty much said what I would say, but I still want to address this one comment specifically.

SECCS does not advocate the breaking of laws, regardless of the situation. We don't post about street racing, we don't post about "this one time I was going 140 on the highway", we don't post about passing trucks in an area that's notorious for car on truck accidents over a double yellow.

Does that mean all SECCS members are perfect angelic drivers? Of course not... but it means you come on the boards like a dumb-ass and advocate those actions! Like Nick said, I've got to give you some respect for coming on the board and apologizing. That was a class act move. And perhaps some of us were a little quick to flame you, even though you were apologizing. But to attempt to defend your actions as justifiable goes a long way to un-apologize. It also goes against the board's policy of not advocating jackassery. If you think it's okay to drive like an idiot, at the very least, keep your mouth shut about it on the boards and take your licks when the rest of us come down on you.

Think of it this way. You pissed off Matt pretty severly with your antics. What happens when you do that to someone w/ less self control? What happens when some pissed truck driver *intentionally* decides to run you into the median? You think that EVO can stand up to a rig? What happens when that happens and you're on the bike?

I understand "agressive" defensive driving... i.e. proactively staying out of trouble, especially on a bike. But darting out of a truck's blind spot to pass doesn't count. The fact that you were able to pull two stupid moves in one day, against the same truck speaks volumes to the way you must drive all the time. To me, it sounds like you're well down the path to becoming the owner of a crashed EVO, or a stain on the road if you're riding the bike. Normally I'd advocate "taking it to the track" instead of driving agressively on the street, but frankly I wouldn't want to share the track with you either... I'd be too worried that you'd ignore the yellow flags because you're some sorta "free thinker". :roll:

As far as a modified blue wagon trying to race you... they're not part of SECCS. The last blue wagon in the club was Debbie's, and it was unmodified (B-Stock legal), not driven childishly, and died by rear-ending a few years back.

Probably Jason.

That car was blown up even before Debbie's was wrecked, wasn't it?

I don't mind criticism, I do mind insults. Hence my facetious responses.

My original intention was to apologize to Matt, and of course, being on a forum, there are those that feel it their responsibility to society to chastise and insult in order to get their point across that I drive like an ass. Easy to make over generalizations when your reading about an incident and not actually witnessing it, but so be it. I admit that I drive more aggressive than your average person, but I also guarantee that my situational awareness and self preservative instincts are on par. This isn't my first sports car either.My dad had me racing shifter karts when I was a kid and I started buying high performance cars and bikes in the early 90's and I put myself through numerous riding and driving schools and even raced in a few Formula Mazda races and some AFM events. And to be honest, after riding and racing bikes, driving a car at it's limit is a lot easier. Being unsmooth in a car is a lot more forgiving than being unsmooth on a bike. But anyway ... I apologize again for stepping on anyone's driving sensibilities.

It actually wasn't my fault

Matt threw on the brakes and I flew right by. (joke)

I didn't think so? Maybe I'm wrong.

I'm sure Matt appreciates the apology and I think it's nice that you were able to admit you were wrong. People in general just like to preach and Scott always has a heart attack about our board being labelled as a bunch of idiot ricers. Just the way life goes. As long you doesn't drive like an asshole at meets or drift past people on the street yelling "SECCS bitches" I don't think it really reflects poorly on us as a group. You can just join Ryan in the moron driver section of the club. haha jk

Even if he did, people would think he was yelling "sex bitches", he'd have to have a sign in his window that said "SECCS bitches". :lol:

I have one of those, people always come up ask how much my girls charge for an hour? I don't understand why.

Just so you all know, when I yell out my window about "Sex"...I'm talking about coitus.

Maybe that's why people always look at me funny when I say I'm going to the weekly SECCS meet.

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Then why don't you just yell coitus?

Cause then everyone named Curtis within earshot would follow you around all day.

Neat thread.

I agree. I don't think SECCS has ever had a serious thread (unless it was someone passing away) that didn't end up off topic. And usually in a goofy retarded way. I guess that's why I love this place.

:liljon:
:concur:
:moon:

OKay, as crappy as this whole thread is, that post made me laugh dammit. :lol:

Guys, thanks for all the input, I think it's clear where everyone stands and there no sense discussing it further IMO.

That is all.