drifting march 24 reno fernley raceway
 

i know, i know it's not usually subaru territory, but hey, you probably know someone who wants to go to our drift event march 24. and i already browse this forum regularly. it's only $75 to drive, sideways, mind you. check out www.tahoemotorsports.com for more details.

I was unaware that Reno had a large drifting community.

Last time when IVM? had a drag racing at the RFR they try to have a drift show too. Many interesting but they said only 5 people sign up and many no show so they cancel it. I don't think it gonna be big. I love to watch it just watch.

Maybe advertise in the BayArea forums?

I am actually very tempted to go. While learning to initiate a drift isn't high on my list of things to do, learning to better handle a car in a tail out situation may have significant value.

Stiffen the rear bar, and switch the DCCD to full rear, and I assume it would be somewhat doable in the STI? I have a mixed set of 215/615s I'd like to kill anyway.

With the DCCD fully open, isn't the torque split still like 30/70? Sounds like all kinds of bad for the center dif if I'm not mistaken.

Torque split on the STi is not variable, it's *always* 35/65. The DCCD controls the amount of slip required before the center diff locks and forces power to the non-slipping wheels. So in 50/50 mode you get no leeway, front and rear wheels must spin the same speed; in 10/90 mode you get tons of leeway, the rear tires can be smoking away spinning 9 times faster than the fronts.

The problem with drifting a Subaru is that in order to use the throttle to maintain the drift, you are also accelerating the car. No such thing as hanging the back out and letting it sit there... the front tires will pull you forward. So you can drift an STi, you just have to be willing to enter the corner at 30 mph, throw the ass out, and exit the corner at 120 mph. Remember, these things were designed for loose surface acceleration! For all intents and purposes, drifting on tarmac is exactly opposite of what a Subaru is for!

Interesting. So it shouldn't be all that bad for the dif, relatively speaking?

Relative to what? Autocross? Hot lapping at the track? Parking at SafeWay?

I'd say it's probably not the best thing to do to the car. But it's not like towing it with two wheels in the air. Setting the DCCD to 10/90 is the "nicest" thing you can do because it's not locking up all that much, but then your going out and romping the shit out of the car...

Well, I mean it's fairly obvious that getting sideways in any car is hard on the drivetrain. That's what I meant by relatively speaking.

It might be a good place to break in the 86. Who are the instructers?

Maybe they will have loaner drift built fd RX7s?



meh.

If you don't go to this I get to kick you in the nuts when I come back.

He'll be going if we can get the car ready in time! :eek:

Make it happen Cory, for the sake of Bobby's balls and the endless ridicule he'll receive since he's been complaining about the lack of drift events in the area for years :)

Still waiting for HIM to get some $$$... I'm ready to rock and roll on that thing! :lol:

I don't recall ever saying that.

Oh, but I do. And we both know who has a better memory of the two.

Just go hold up a couple convenient stores and get the car ready for the event!

I was unaware as well.

reno is a convenient location for me and the rest of our crew that lives in tahoe. also reno is a good location because pro control drive school(locals to reno fernley raceway) like the drift idea.

i posted on this forum because i'm frequently logged on already.

we'll have a few guys up from LA's "drift buffet" crew to help out and give driving advise. similar to an an autocross school.

Hey man we are not mad or anything that you posted this here.

I think it's cool, I just wasn't sure you would get much of a response.

oops, i hope i didn't seem defensive. i was shooting for infomative. i'm anxious to see how it turns out too. drifting isn't exactly my "thing", but i thought it would be fun to be a part of hosting an event. and give back to the community. and for the record i do think getting sideway is way cool. i really wanted to get involved so that by the time i get a chance to host a rally for me, i'll know how to do it. oh yeah and i'll have a car that can handle the abuse.

Thats awesome, I know of a bunch of people who would be down to go check that out.

my neighbors friend is a huge drifter. dont remember what ind of car it is but hes really into it i might go out and just check it out.

Do you mind if I post this info on a couple of other forums?

please! please, any help is greatly apreciated and remembered. i already posted on zilvia.net, and another one of our guys is on an rx7 forum, however i'm not sure which one. thanks!

Try here http://nolimitimports.com local one.

Have guys made a course lay-out yet?

We just made some sample courses yesterday at FRF, but there was a little communication snafu , and the Corporate office hadn't spoke to the track office, or something else confusing, the end result was their staff was very very surprised to see us. We ended up using the small skid pad which only allowed for very small courses (3 turns). Since we will get the big skid pad for the event, our layouts that we came up with won't be applicable, unless they are used as part of the final layout. It seemed that a good drift layout made for a VERY tight feeling AutoX course.

On an unrelated note, Scott seems fairly well known there. A nice fellow by the name of Mike (IIRC) noticed my STI and wanted to ride with me on the track. (he was assuming i was there for the test N tune also) He went on for quite some time about how fast Scott is in his "STI". I mentioned that Scott does basically have a modified STI, though its technically a WRX (Shell?), with STI type parts and lots of other mods, and that mine was stock. I also mentioned that riding with me, wouldn't really be what he was expecting. Someone else also mentioned a fast "White STI" could be anyone, but i'll assume its Mike. Still, pretty damn cool that random people think so highly of some of our board members. :)

I drove my car around the drift lay outs a few times, with DCCD fully open. but i was not drifting around. I did break the ass free a lil bit once or twice by taking the corner at the traction limit (in first) and then squeezing down on the gas a bit more. Seemed like learning that exact limit could be helpful in learning more about driving, traction, and limits.

I now expect to be .001 seconds faster per autox course.. :P /Sarcasm

Pull the E-Brake....Yo.

snafu continues. The March 24 Drift-o-Rama has been postponed to a later date. Reasons are personal to the track time provider. Fellow enthusiasts please join us, we will still have an unofficial group drive through the mountains the same date. Meet at 8:00am March 24 at the Lakeside Inn and Casino upstairs restaurant for breakfast. (check www.lakesideinn.com for directions) Drive should last for a few hours. Radios available. This drive isn’t just for the drift crowd either; half of us that make Tahoe Motorsports drive Subarus. Please contact me so we can get an idea of how many want to join us. Or contact me for more info, or see our updated website (www.tahoemotorsports.com).

Sorry dude... I avoid publicly-created group drives as a general rule, and I hope you can see where one that was put together to give drifters something to do because their drift session was cancelled might not be the best idea also...

Ha ha ha! That's great!

Man was totally gonna sell some tires at that event. bah!

maybe even see some drifting.

no we don't promote street racing or otherwise extreme danger to the public. with that said, if it makes you feel any better, we had no preregistrants. the only dudes that had any interest were friends of friends(4 rx7 guys from sacto). publicity includes a few local fliers and a few related internet forums. my research concluded that there is a giant sum of drift interest in sacto, including the 240, mazda, and old toyota crowd. boo frickin hoo. this just means that we'll be organizing (yes organized and legal) a dirt related event sooner.

jez were just a few enthusiasts looking to make amature motorsports more accessible and affordable. (ha, ha, funny to only me) come to the meet/drive and i'll explain. (ha ha, also funny for only me)

I'm not trying to make you look like some street racer punk, don't get me wrong. I've just seen so many group drives go *very* wrong and that's when it's supposedly done as a country drive without anybody pushing it. It can just easily become semi-competitive where a couple guys feel like showing off or trying something they haven't really done before in their car, and things go wrong. Imagining a few inexperienced drivers on unfamiliar roads in potentially poorly set up "drift" cars just makes it seem more likely to me.

On the other hand, you are obviously not the idiot type that gives guys like us a bad name since you were trying to get a sanctioned track event organized for those kinds of guys in the firs place. I was just giving you a heads up as to why you would probably find far less interest in a group drive than you did even with the legitimate event with this crowd is all. But, if you get a dirt event set up... bets are off for SECCS. :p

Meh, just let the people that want to drive fast do it. If they wanna get crazy on a 2 lane road they can be far, far ahead of me.

thanks for the neutral attitude. and in return, i'll be glad to see anyone there. and if not i'll still post some pics of what i hope to be a good time. and the best outcome; maybe i'll be acquainted with some good roads that i don't yet know about.

What if you are in front of them in the opposite direction - you have no control over the outcome. Be careful and considerate of everyone on those roads - this time of year especially. As it gets warmer, more and more bikes, motorcycles etc are on the road. It only takes one moment of bravato to ruin a day.

If it's a group drive, why would I be going in the opposite direction? I know yer point, but I can't worry about other drivers in the caravan. I can only be accountable for how I drive, not the guy carvin corners 200 ft in front of me. Like I said, if people want to be hella crazy, then they can, and I will do all I can to make sure I am driving safely.

I didn't realize you would be in the drive. I am referring to all the other people you guys pass that are not in the drive. Sorry these things always result in someone driving hard or beyond their abilities. Please let us know which road and when so we can steer clear!

I dunno, I'll probably go. A lot of the roads around the lake are 2 lane with double yellow's. I won't be passing anybody. I don't get why you think that I MUST drive fast.

It's not you. It's the kid who does think he has to drive like a dork that worries people like me and Nick.

Exactly! By passing I was referring to oncoming traffic passing by. Look, I have been there myself. I have done group drives with all of us driving like idiots. I used to drive fast all the time. I don't know if it was seeing or hearing about the accidents, but I smartened up. It doesn't matter what age you are, male or female; if you are driving in a large group of performance enthusiasts, someone at some point will push it and it may or may not result in disaster.

Well I have a feeling I'll be too tired or still awake by that time in the mornin.

we've got a couple of routs in mind most of which include (ca) hwy 4, and 49. google it if you don't already know the roads. i've never driven that part of 49, but the rest of that highway i have driven is really fun. others in the group say it's great, and so is 4. especially sense it's early in the year..

We've already had one wrecked car on 49 during a club group drive.

that sucks

The drive went great. Not much of a turn out though. The original rout was closed due to winter closure(duh). Plan B: we drove hwy 28 up the east shore of Tahoe. One of our guys got puked on because he chose to tailgate a car that must have had a hung-over dude in the backseat. We stopped in Incline to wash the car. Then we drove over Mt. Rose to Reno then hwy 341 to Virginia City. There we ate at a friend’s restaurant; the Bonanza Café.

After that we drove down the truck route, which as I understand is, backwards, the same road as the Ferrari hill climb. The rx7 got brake fade, Alex’s STi with green stuff pads got a little fade and some stink. My favorite part was when my Axxis “ultimate” pads smoked at the bottom of the hill. This is really cool because I didn’t notice any fade. And I have slightly blue rotors now. Too bad it’ll polish away in a couple of days.

To finish off we went back through Carson City, took Jacks Valley road to hwy 395/88 then came back to Tahoe from the south with a stop at my house in Meyers then bbq’ed at Gabe’s house.

We as a crew of enthusiasts did learn valuable lessons and skills from trying to organize a potentially fun time, only to get the shaft from a big un-organized business in the end. And we still know how to have a fun time. Further more, we’ll strive to bring good races and events to our community filled with other enthusiasts. Thanks for looking.

Ansel