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zpeed 2008-12-15 09:00 PM

Anybody plan to run Lemon 24 Hr at RFR?
 
I read that in the car&driver magazine and now it will come to RFR. May 23-24 2009. Should be fun to camp out and see them.

Anybody plan to run this race? I would love to be a co pilot. Here is what post on RFR site.

>"Each LeMons race is for cars purchased, fixed up, and track-prepped for a total of $500 dollars or >less. But before reaching the grid, you'll have to survive trials like the Personal-Injury-Lawyer
>Anti-Slalom, the Marxist-Valet Parking Challenge, and the Wide Open Throttle Rodthrowapalooza. >Twelve hours into the race, the car voted People’s Choice is called in and awarded a cash prize; >simultaneously, the car voted People’s Curse is called in and summarily destroyed. At the end of 24 >hours, a gala awards ceremony plies the survivors with trophies, plaques, and four-figure purses in >canvas bags full of nickels. What's not to like?

Kevin M 2008-12-15 09:01 PM

I actually bought a car to run in this month's LeMons at Thunder Hill, but life got in the way.

I think life might lose out to a Reno LeMons...

van 2008-12-15 09:16 PM

I want in too
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin M (Post 126453)
I actually bought a car to run in this month's LeMons at Thunder Hill, but life got in the way.

I think life might lose out to a Reno LeMons...


cody 2008-12-15 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin M (Post 126453)
I actually bought a car to run in this month's LeMons at Thunder Hill, but life got in the way.

I think life might lose out to a Reno LeMons...

If you gotta go...

MattR 2008-12-16 07:07 AM

Bay area drivers don't travel to RFR for SCCA Club races, do they really think people will haul up here to run their beat-down cars on a beat-down track? Good luck.

Kevin M 2008-12-16 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattR (Post 126467)
Bay area drivers don't travel to RFR for SCCA Club races, do they really think people will haul up here to run their beat-down cars on a beat-down track? Good luck.

As I hear it the entry list for LeMons races is pretty ridiculous, and there's very little cost on the organizer's part relative to real races. I'm sure the race will happen and make money.

MattR 2008-12-16 11:08 AM

Well that's good. Hopefully it will be a good source of revenue for RFR.

sperry 2008-12-16 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattR (Post 126467)
Bay area drivers don't travel to RFR for SCCA Club races, do they really think people will haul up here to run their beat-down cars on a beat-down track? Good luck.

With the death at Altamont's Lemons this year, it's very likely that RFR is the nearest track to the Bay that's actually willing to host it.

Kevin M 2008-12-16 12:44 PM

I hadn't heard about Altamont getting cancelled. Why did they do that?

sperry 2008-12-16 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin M (Post 126481)
I hadn't heard about Altamont getting cancelled. Why did they do that?

I was just assuming that they wouldn't host the event again after someone got killed. I know if I owned the track, and someone got killed in a race full of intentionally cheap cars, I wouldn't want the liability of holding the event again.

MattR 2008-12-16 01:49 PM

Didn't the driver die because of a medical issue, not a crash?

Nick Koan 2008-12-16 02:08 PM

Yeah, that's what they found. He had a heart attack (I think) and lost control of his car. The death wasn't due to the crash.

Regardless, its probably could have been a big reality check for the race track.

Kevin M 2008-12-16 02:36 PM

Oh, I misread your post as "the death of Altamont" as in of the race. Yeah, everybody is fairly certain the heart attack caused the crash, not the other way around. The guy drove straight in to a barrier and wasn't going very fast.

Kevin M 2008-12-16 02:37 PM

Also, the Thunder Hill race is this weekend or next.

sybir 2008-12-16 03:27 PM

Next, it kicks off after Christmas, lol.

van 2008-12-17 08:09 PM

Quote:

GOIN' FOR BROKEN (2009)
Date: 23-24 May, 2009
Track: Reno-Fernley Raceway, Fernley NV
Entry Deadline: Ten weeks before the race (14 March 2009)
Late Entries: Considered case-by-case, space permitting

rubberbiscuitt 2008-12-18 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin M (Post 126453)
I actually bought a car to run in this month's LeMons at Thunder Hill, but life got in the way.

I think life might lose out to a Reno LeMons...


yes that L might still be able to make it...

sperry 2009-05-17 02:50 PM

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And wheeee! Tested at RFR today.

Too bad I only got half a lap before a fuse blew and killed power to the motor. Then on my second session, I got to the horseshoe on lap 1 and the fuel pump went out.

I would have liked to get some more seat-time, but at least we found the issues before Saturday.

Dean 2009-05-17 02:54 PM

It actually looks pretty good for a Lemons car. Glad you found the gremlins. Good luck.

sperry 2009-05-17 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean (Post 134352)
It actually looks pretty good for a Lemons car. Glad you found the gremlins. Good luck.

Pictures make it look better. You can't see the 2 pounds of zip-tie ends, loose bolts, and metal shards loose to roll around the floor pan. :lol:

cody 2009-05-17 03:23 PM

Awesome!

sperry 2009-05-17 03:32 PM

Oh... that's the centered steering wheel position. :lol:

I'm tempted to get Fred to put a stripe of yellow electrical tape at the top because when I'm turning, I have no reference to how yanked over the wheel is except for the road feedback. If I spin out, I'm going to be all crossed up.

AtomicLabMonkey 2009-05-20 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperry (Post 134356)
Oh... that's the centered steering wheel position. :lol:

I'm tempted to get Fred to put a stripe of yellow electrical tape at the top because when I'm turning, I have no reference to how yanked over the wheel is except for the road feedback. If I spin out, I'm going to be all crossed up.

:lol: Is it not splined? You really should stick tape on there, if nothing else.

A1337STI 2009-05-20 01:51 PM

Yeah take it off, set it more straight and retighten the steering wheel nut. maybe actually adjust your tie rod ends too ? :P i have some toe plates you can borrow if you want to try and fix that up a lil bit (and or just to set your toe)

sperry 2009-05-20 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AtomicLabMonkey (Post 134534)
:lol: Is it not splined? You really should stick tape on there, if nothing else.

We just hadn't set the wheel in those pictures. Today we recentered it, but intentionally upside-down which in theory should have helped our arm position... but I thought it sucked like that the track today, so we'll probably put it the way it's supposed to go.

sperry 2009-05-24 09:33 AM

A little in-car video from yesterday:

Dean 2009-05-24 01:25 PM

Sweet. Car looks like it is doing well. Missing a little torque. ;)

sperry 2009-05-24 06:41 PM

The car is gutless... even when compared to the other gutless cars out there. But we more than make up for it with the super light weight and wide tires, plus the advantage of being one of the few teams that really knows the line. So as long as you can get to the correct line, you can pass virtually everyone in the corners, and especially under braking.

We ended up taking 22nd place over-all, and 6th in class! Not bad for over 100 cars out there on our first whack at Lemons! :cool:

van 2009-05-24 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperry (Post 134750)

We ended up taking 22nd place over-all, and 6th in class! Not bad for over 100 cars out there on our first whack at Lemons! :cool:

That's awesome, Congratulations guys.

sybir 2009-05-24 10:21 PM

Awesome, man, that's a great finish :)
Loved the video, too.

Dean 2009-05-25 06:40 AM

Great job Scott and the whole team. So how much time did you end up behind the wheel?

Any idea how many actually finished?

Not that you deserved it, but I like the penalty of writing on the roof 100 times. Any other interesting penalties?

sperry 2009-05-25 09:29 AM

The team really did a fantastic job. I'm most amazed at how sorted the car was... it was a breeze to drive, had no weird quirks, got great mileage, great tire wear, didn't complain when you flogged it, was extremely reliable, and just took our punishment all day long. I think our biggest problems were a sensor connector that came loose that made the car run rough off-throttle (we plugged it back in), an overheated distributor that caused the car to cut out in the top of 5th gear in the esses (we drove around it), and an adapter cable I made for running everyone's headsets w/ the radio that got flaky and caused the comms to drop intermittently (we switched to the pit board).

My first stint was a little under an hour, then on my second I was going to push to the finish (which would have been almost 2 hours) but the black flag brought me in at about 90 minutes. Then I drove another hour on Sunday. So, I got about 3.5 hours total over the weekend.

There were a lot of cars out there during the last 30 minutes as people dragged themselves out of the pits in hammered cars to take the checkered. I didn't count, but I would guess there were like 70 or 80 cars running on the last lap, though many of them were many many laps down. In fact, I think Michel counted late on day one and saw as few as 30 some-odd cars out on track.

We had four penalties over the weekend: Fred got pushed off track by so 80's themed Mustang and had to serve time in the penalty box for two-wheels-off. I got dinged for two-wheels-off, (though it was a bad call... watch the video I posted on You Tube and see if you can see me drop two wheels) and the team had to solve a long math word problem with lots of unit conversions in sharpie on the hood (does anyone know the conversion between calories and joules off hand? Yeah, neither did we. Thanks for the internet access via your phone Tyson!). Then on Fred's second stint, he passed under yellow and was forced to parade around the pits for a lap following the VW bus of shame with all the other folks that passed under yellow. And finally, I passed under yellow (I still don't know where or when, but the flagging was tough in a few spots, so I probably did it... passing under yellow had to be the most common infraction) and that was the writing on the roof penalty.

A1337STI 2009-05-25 09:44 AM

Awesome!! good job!

was every hand wave for a black flag? there was a wave at like 2:00 and then one a few minutes after your annotation i that maybe looked like a brake indicator?

Are your results with lap times posted? i saw you passing by a lot of other cars , as you were just chugging along on a good line. hehe Nice Work!

sperry 2009-05-25 10:47 AM

Most the hand waves were for yellows to warn drivers behind we're slowing down.

Tahoe C5 2009-05-25 01:02 PM

AWESOME EFFORT! Congratulations to the team!

MikeK 2009-06-02 02:51 AM

News story about the event: http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Weekend/st...7711114&page=1

van 2009-06-08 07:03 PM

Was this black Miata out there with you guys Scott?
http://jalopnik.com/5282091/peoples-...lemons-justice

sperry 2009-06-09 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by van (Post 135394)
Was this black Miata out there with you guys Scott?
http://jalopnik.com/5282091/peoples-...lemons-justice

:lol: Nope, they weren't at the RFR event, though a miata did win our race too.

sperry 2009-06-18 09:52 AM

I put up the complete race highlight reel on YouTube:



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