A different kind of Suspension Tuning
 

Here are some cool pics of my Jeep. ( Yes, the era before Subarus for me)
check out that travel. Sometimes I miss it.

http://photos.imageevent.com/mroynv/.../jeep1.bmp.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/mroynv/.../jeep4.bmp.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/mroynv/..._jeep2.bmp.jpg

That looks pretty dam phun.

In the third pic it looks like that rock is balanced on top of your panda jeep.

I havent been rock crawling in a long time... what suspension setup were u running there? hard to tell from the pics.

It ran a 4.5" Teraflex litf with some Rubicon express parts mixed in...it worked very well.

I thought I did some offroading behind Blue Lakes, but that is radical.

Awewsome man! That thing's a BEAST!

That's awesome... makes me want to go strap some huge tires on the Jeep, disconnect the swaybars, and hit the trail. :lol:

Wow. Too bad you gave that puppy up. Whata beast. :shock:

Hmm .. are you thinking what i am thinking?? The SECCS II car club ?
SECCS=SUV's Enthusiats Car Club of the Sierras :lol:

Not really. I hate SUV's.

How about no. Unless it's more like SUV Euthanasia Car Club of the Sierras.

Yeah! No SUV's! My Jeep was not an SUV...It was a Jeep...Please refrain from using the "S" word when referring to it.

J.E.C.C.S.

Hhahahah!!! :lol: :lol:

Hmm don't they serve the same purpose ? :twisted:

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4X4 vs AWD :P

The difference is that Jeeps are the original go-anywhere off-road utility vehicle. The Jeep Wrangler traces its origins back to world war 2 and the original Willy's Jeep (that you see G.I's riding around in in every WW2 movie). The Jeep Cherokee was the first mid-size utility vehicle to be designed back in 1984. All the "SUV's" that have come out since then have been based on a Jeep in one way or another. That's why our Jeeps are just that... Jeeps. :wink:

Plus Jeeps aren't all over-grown and useless. Matt's Jeep could drive over an H2. An H2 has problems crawling over a curb.

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I knew this .. how you ask.. lol... cause I like to watch old black and white war movies... lol

Why you gotta bring race into it, man?















;) :lol:

Ohh My Fricken God!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: That meant to say the old "Black and White MOVIES .... Damn typos... lol

Check your original post... I'm just messin' with ya :P :lol:

Here is what happens when you take a POS H2 where only well built trail rigs should go...this rules, enjoy fixing that on the trail ass clowns! :lol:
http://www.foadmedia.com/images/Hummer_v_rock.wmv

Simply put, that guy didnt know how to 4-wheel for shit... seriously, he is hung and he can think of nothing better than to floor it.. what a fucking idiot... that boulder field could be taken by my Tracker with nothing more than a rear locker and 235s.

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Shitty driver or not, the fucking suspension destroyed itself on a 10" tall rock. Your tracker'd make that rock because it's suspension is just as strong as the H2's but it doesn't have to carry 6000lbs.

Care to put money on it? You guys seriously underestimate the trailworthiness of a Geo, the main problem is the aluminum front diff, which blows, but its fixable. Have you ever seen a Suzuki Samurai rockcrawl? A well setup Suzuki will run circles around most jeeps with a good driver.

No, the suspension didn't destroy itself, that was driver stupidity, combined with non-stupid proof tie rods.

??? Did we just watch the same movie? I'm pretty sure that H2 dropped down a 10" tall boulder and the tie-rods broke! I don't care if my grandma was driving that thing, it shouldn't have failed. I'm not saying the driver isn't an idiot, I'm just saying the suspension components on that bohemoth aren't strong enough for its weight. The suspension for an "off-road" vehicle should be able to take the weight of the entire vehicle at odd angles for at least a temporary amount of time. How much you wanna bet if you tried lift the front of the H2 with one tire as in the new Rubicon commercial, it'd break itself?

Simply put, if a 10" drop can break a tie-rod, then the H2 shouldn't be driven anywhere except to and from the grocery store... which not coincidentally is where 99% of those stupid school busses are driven.

I'm gonna have to go with Scott on this one... not only was that not a very severe load case, but "non-stupid proof tie-rod ends" means that they weren't designed correctly. When an engineer designs a part, they're supposed to use a safety factor multiplier that takes into account stupid people that do stupid shit - it's machine design fundamentals. If the H2 steering linkage can't handle the forces exerted on it from one tire in the air and the other sliding off a small rock, then it wasn't designed correctly and shouldn't be anywhere near an off-road trail.