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Evo Mike 2009-05-06 11:52 AM

wtb stock wrx tires
 
Hey want to buy stock wrx tires

Size 205 55 16

Thanks

Mike

sedonabugeye 2009-05-06 05:02 PM

i have a brand new set of 205 65 16 kumho solus tires. never mounted. would those work for you?

Kevin M 2009-05-06 05:10 PM

They'd be WAY tall.

sedonabugeye 2009-05-06 05:35 PM

I wouldnt say way tall.. but im just throwing out what ive got layin around the house.

khail19 2009-05-06 08:30 PM

1.75" larger in diameter, I'd say that's way tall.

Evo Mike 2009-05-06 08:31 PM

will those fit? Man, they are for my friend who really doesn't care about the quality of tires.

i gonna go check tire rack now. how much do you want for them?

khail19 2009-05-06 08:33 PM

Are they going on a WRX or something else?

100_Percent_Juice 2009-05-06 09:36 PM

So what, if the car is bumped up in the air less than an inch and some wheel gap disappears, I would be cool with that.

sperry 2009-05-06 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 100_Percent_Juice (Post 133718)
So what, if the car is bumped up in the air less than an inch and some wheel gap disappears, I would be cool with that.

Your speedo would be off a ton, and you'd likely rub over bumps.

khail19 2009-05-06 10:06 PM

Not to mention softer sidewalls, and poorer steering response. If they were going on a Camry or something then I would say the difference is not that important.

sedonabugeye 2009-05-06 10:26 PM

if its ok a stock wrx and he just wants tires, the stock lift kit leave plenty of room for these tires

wrxkidid 2009-05-07 05:50 AM

i got a pair of stock sized blizzaks...kinda the wrong season though

100_Percent_Juice 2009-05-07 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by sperry (Post 133721)
Your speedo would be off a ton, and you'd likely rub over bumps.

At 30mph you would really be going 32, at 70mph you would be going almost 75. If you drive the speed limit you will be fine and thats not too hard to account for. Way off is when you lift an f510 and stick 35" tires on it. We don't know what car these are going on but even if its a wrx there will be PLENTY of room for clearance.

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Originally Posted by khail19 (Post 133722)
Not to mention softer sidewalls, and poorer steering response. If they were going on a Camry or something then I would say the difference is not that important.

If someone is looking for stock wrx tires I don't really know if they are looking for firm sidewalls. For a street driven car these should be totally fine if the person obeys the speed laws.

sperry 2009-05-07 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 100_Percent_Juice (Post 133727)
At 30mph you would really be going 32, at 70mph you would be going almost 75. If you drive the speed limit you will be fine and thats not too hard to account for. Way off is when you lift an f510 and stick 35" tires on it. We don't know what car these are going on but even if its a wrx there will be PLENTY of room for clearance.



If someone is looking for stock wrx tires I don't really know if they are looking for firm sidewalls. For a street driven car these should be totally fine if the person obeys the speed laws.

All I'm saying is, Mike explicitly called out the size he needs. A 65 series tire is significantly taller than a 55 series tire... 10% taller in fact. We're not talking about running 235/40's instead of 225/45's.

Without knowing exactly what car and what wheels these are going on, I wouldn't shrug off that much of a size difference. For example, if I went up 10% in side wall height on my SVX, I'd rub all over the place in the back... every bump and every turn. If I did it on my WRX, the wheels probably wouldn't even roll because the fenders would be sitting on the rubber instead of on the suspension! :lol:

So... maybe those 65's would work, but I would want to know what car they're going on, what size/offset the wheels are, etc. before recommending them as "okay". Like Andy said... if it's a bone stock WRX there's quite a bit of room for more tire... but if these are going on a lowered Honda for example, who knows.

Evo Mike 2009-05-07 11:08 AM

Ak! Sorry this is such a hassel. Its going on a 2.5 ts wagon. I might just tell my friend to buy tires off tire rack. It seems cheapest and easiest there..

Although I wouldn't see a problem with running blzzaks all year! Just more noise.

cody 2009-05-07 11:14 AM

Check here too: http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/hom...T%7Cpc%7C89503

100_Percent_Juice 2009-05-07 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry (Post 133752)
All I'm saying is, Mike explicitly called out the size he needs. A 65 series tire is significantly taller than a 55 series tire... 10% taller in fact. We're not talking about running 235/40's instead of 225/45's.

Without knowing exactly what car and what wheels these are going on, I wouldn't shrug off that much of a size difference. For example, if I went up 10% in side wall height on my SVX, I'd rub all over the place in the back... every bump and every turn. If I did it on my WRX, the wheels probably wouldn't even roll because the fenders would be sitting on the rubber instead of on the suspension!

So... maybe those 65's would work, but I would want to know what car they're going on, what size/offset the wheels are, etc. before recommending them as "okay". Like Andy said... if it's a bone stock WRX there's quite a bit of room for more tire... but if these are going on a lowered Honda for example, who knows.

I thought going from a 205/55/16 to a 205/65/16 is a 6% difference. Either way, I think what has happened here is that none of us had all the facts about why the OP wants what he does and we all have different ideas of what huge, way tall, and ton mean.

cody 2009-05-07 02:45 PM

It's 10% of 205mm (the tread width) taller but you're right, it's a 6.5% increase in diameter. They're 1.61" taller than stock in diameter.

Comparitively, a 235/40/17 is 1.48" shorter than stock in diameter.

Assuming they're going on a stock 2.5 TS they should fit fine, but they'll make the gears seem taller (which puts a touch more stress on them, but I doubt that's an issue with a TS). This could lead to better gas milage on the freeway and a smoother feeling ride at the expense of handling.

sedonabugeye 2009-05-07 03:15 PM

damn you guys have a lot of tire specs..haha! and believe me.. those would never work on a lowered honda.. ive got a sweet rice burner! but the ts, theyd be fine on

cody 2009-05-07 03:29 PM

Tire specs are easy when you use a tire size calculator. :)

http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoTireMath.dos

Kevin M 2009-05-07 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cody (Post 133774)
It's 10% of 205mm (the tread width) taller but you're right, it's a 6.5% increase in diameter. They're 1.61" taller than stock in diameter.

Comparitively, a 235/40/17 is 1.48" shorter than stock in diameter.

Assuming they're going on a stock 2.5 TS they should fit fine, but they'll make the gears seem taller (which puts a touch more stress on them, but I doubt that's an issue with a TS). This could lead to better gas milage on the freeway and a smoother feeling ride at the expense of handling.

Actually they're .20x205= 41mm taller. The aspect ratio applies to both sides of the tire. ;)

Kevin M 2009-05-07 03:59 PM

Also, taller tires reduce your freeway economy, because they reduce at-the-wheels torque and (probably) drop the engine speed farther from the torque peak, so you end up needing more throttle. They definitely hurt your acceleration.

cody 2009-05-07 04:01 PM

So they're taller by 20%!


...of the tread width so who cares. :P

cody 2009-05-07 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin M (Post 133787)
Also, taller tires reduce your freeway economy, because they reduce at-the-wheels torque and (probably) drop the engine speed farther from the torque peak, so you end up needing more throttle. They definitely hurt your acceleration.

Then just drive around in 4th! :P

It's not goint to be as much of an improvement on a 5 speed but it certainly would be on my old Volvos which were all 4 speeds. On the 5MT, I think it would shift your optimum gas milage speed from around 55mph to around 58 mph if I had to guess, but I hear what you're saying. It's not going to help at the lower speeds, that's for sure.

Kevin M 2009-05-07 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by cody (Post 133789)
On the 5MT, I think it would shift your optimum gas milage speed from around 55mph to around 58 mph if I had to guess, but I hear what you're saying. It's not going to help at the lower speeds, that's for sure.

Only if it dropped your drag coefficient by .02 or so. And the effect is not speed dependent, but the torque reduction is a larger absolute number in successively lower gears.


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