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sperry 2004-03-06 09:55 PM

802.11g in teh hizzle
 
So I picked up an 802.11a+g wireless network card and an 802.11g access point for my laptop/home network.

Being able to sit in front of the TV online rocks... I see why all the Sac losers waste their time that way. :lol: Now if only I could find some cool games for a P2 233MHz laptop! :lol:

Hey, anyone know where to get a 20GB or larger laptop harddrive for cheap?

Dean 2004-03-06 10:01 PM

Re: 802.11g in teh hizzle
 
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Originally Posted by sperry
anyone know where to get a 20GB or larger laptop harddrive for cheap?

Be careful, that system may not support anything as big as 20GB. Do some checking on the web first before you shell out the bucks.

Othewise, pricewatch, pricegrabber, ebay and amazon.

Nick Koan 2004-03-06 10:24 PM

Network only g but no b?

Damn, can't use your network then...

Dean 2004-03-06 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by nKoan
Network only g but no b?

G usually implies support for B, but it brings the that AP down to B speed.

MikeSTI 2004-03-07 12:02 AM

I love my wireless network also 8) Now my wife cant say I spend all my time in my office because I sit right next to her in the living room :lol:

sperry 2004-03-07 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Dean
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Originally Posted by nKoan
Network only g but no b?

G usually implies support for B, but it brings the that AP down to B speed.

Yeah, the access point will run B and G. But I don't remember reading that a B adapter connected to it will slow all the G connections!?! That would suck!

Dean 2004-03-07 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by sperry
I don't remember reading that a B adapter connected to it will slow all the G connections!?! That would suck!

It definitely will slow them, but perhaps not as bad as I remembered. Aparently they did make it better in the final RFC...

"backward compatibility" with 802.11b means that when a mobile 802.11b device joins an 802.11g access point, all connections on that access point slow down to 802.11b speeds."-http://www.devx.com/wireless/Door/11411

"The actual maximum throughput in a mixed b/g environment of an 802.11g client is limited to between 14 and 15 Mbps. This is still approximately three times faster than 802.11b. The specification also allows for a G Performance mode (G only) where throughout can reach 20-24 Mbps. An additional B only mode has been added for use in all 802.11b environments."-http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/columns/bowman/80211gspec.asp

JoelK 2004-03-07 07:59 AM

You might also check out the Need to Know section of www.tomsnetworking.com.

I'm not generally the biggest fan of Tom's Hardware (especially their commentary), but the networking Need to Knows that I read look solid at every level.

Dean 2004-03-07 08:19 AM

A couple quick wireless tips.

Unless you are sharing your wireless with the whole building/neighborhood, change your SSID from the default, and disable it's broadcast if you can.

I always thought if you lived in an apartment, this would be a great way to get broadband cheap. One Central AP could serve an entire 6-8 apartment/condo group. That comes out to $5-7 per unit for a $40 broadband connection.

Use a shared secret 128bit WEP key (26 Hex characters) if you have any private data.

Solid objects are your enemy. Put your AP so primay work areas have the least obstructions to it. Attics are bad in general unless you are only using it in one room since the diabonal beams will travel throught the ceiling at very low angles.

Check your signal quality! Changing the channel on your AP, or moving it 6 inches could make an unexpected difference.

MikeSTI 2004-03-07 09:14 AM

from my wireless G I get 24 to 54 mbps so I dont think the 14 to 15 is correct unless its displaying one thing and doing somthing different

Dean 2004-03-07 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeSTI
from my wireless G I get 24 to 54 mbps so I dont think the 14 to 15 is correct unless its displaying one thing and doing somthing different

What the icon in the system tray, etc. says is not real thruput, it is one of the 12 allowed transmission rates it, and the AP have been able to agree upon based on signal quality etc.. 14-15Mb appears to be real throughput of a mixed B/G net vs. 5-6Mb for pure B, and 20-24Mb for pure G.

Don't beleive those numbers, try an FTP between your wireless, and a wired machine on the same router. It should give you somewhat useful statistics.

Remeber, Mb is Megabits, not MegaBytes.

sperry 2004-03-07 10:23 PM

Well, my AP's in the living room, and I have access from everywhere in my Apt... and it's plenty fast for browsing the web and d/ling from my local server, so I'm not going to stress it... hell, we're moving in a few weeks anyway.

As far as security I'm off the default channel, and I've got 128 WEP up and running.

sperry 2004-03-08 02:33 AM

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heh... check out my new background for my laptop:

Nick Koan 2004-03-08 10:00 AM

^^^ :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

STIwish 2004-03-08 12:16 PM

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

LVSUBARU 2004-03-08 07:12 PM

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Nice!!!!!! :lol: :lol:

tysonK 2004-03-08 07:27 PM

that is funnAy

BADBORA 2004-03-08 07:30 PM

lol :lol: :lol:


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