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MattR 2004-09-17 05:01 PM

Winter Sport M3's...
 
Best snow tire for the $$...very fairly priced...at Tire rack.. Wish I had the m3's.

Dunlops Winter Sport M3

sperry 2004-09-17 05:06 PM

Surprisingly, they trounce the Blizzack LM-22's in TireRack's reviews, which was the reiging champ back when I was shopping for snow tires 3 winters ago.

Maybe I'll get some M3's for the SVX and then just sell my WRX rims w/ the Blizzacks on 'em, since swapping the Blizzacks onto the stock SVX rims means running a pretty narrow tire on a 7.5" rim.

<hijack>
Anyone interested? Stock 16"x6.5" WRX wheels (minor rash on one of 'em) with stock WRX sized (205/55/16 IIRC) Blizzack LM-22's, $600 OBO. Tires have 2.5 winters on 'em, plenty of tread!

Kevin M 2004-09-17 05:52 PM

Wow, $105 each in stock size. That owns, maybe I'll just go that route this winter.

MikeSTI 2004-09-20 09:18 AM

I still like my 240 Winter Sports :D

maybe I'll try something different in 5 years when these are worn down :lol:

sperry 2004-09-20 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry
Surprisingly, they trounce the Blizzack LM-22's in TireRack's reviews, which was the reiging champ back when I was shopping for snow tires 3 winters ago.

Maybe I'll get some M3's for the SVX and then just sell my WRX rims w/ the Blizzacks on 'em, since swapping the Blizzacks onto the stock SVX rims means running a pretty narrow tire on a 7.5" rim.

<hijack>
Anyone interested? Stock 16"x6.5" WRX wheels (minor rash on one of 'em) with stock WRX sized (205/55/16 IIRC) Blizzack LM-22's, $600 OBO. Tires have 2.5 winters on 'em, plenty of tread!

Well, I checked into M3's for the SVX, and wouldn't you know it, they don't make 'em in the stock SVX size (225/50-16)! The closest size in M3's is a 215/55-16, and those will cause my speedo to read low, as well as cost me $113/tire. The only size in M3's that match the OEM revs/mile are the 205/55-16's which are exactly the size Blizzacks I already have for the WRX.

So, instead of paying money for wider snowtires that don't match the OEM overall diameter, I'm just going to swap the Blizzies onto the SVX rims and be done w/ it.

So, all I'm gonna have for sale are some OEM WRX rims sans tires... any one interested in them? :lol:

Nick Koan 2004-09-20 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry
Well, I checked into M3's for the SVX, and wouldn't you know it, they don't make 'em in the stock SVX size (225/50-16)! The closest size in M3's is a 215/55-16, and those will cause my speedo to read low, as well as cost me $113/tire. The only size in M3's that match the OEM revs/mile are the 205/55-16's which are exactly the size Blizzacks I already have for the WRX.

So, instead of paying money for wider snowtires that don't match the OEM overall diameter, I'm just going to swap the Blizzies onto the SVX rims and be done w/ it.

So, all I'm gonna have for sale are some OEM WRX rims sans tires... any one interested in them? :lol:

Damn, well there goes my option for what to do for snow tires... M3 here I come! (or perhaps M2)

Kevin M 2004-09-20 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by nKoan
Damn, well there goes my option for what to do for snow tires... M3 here I come! (or perhaps M2)

Hmmm... will M2s be on closeout here soon?

Nick Koan 2004-09-20 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS

Hmmm... will M2s be on closeout here soon?

On sale at Tire Rack for $89 a pop (16") last I checked.

sperry 2004-09-20 02:45 PM

I don't think *any* snow tires will be on "closeout" until say next April. And by then they're out of stock (and have been out of stock since December). Especially the M3's... those things sell out in larger sizes by November... which is why MattR's on the M2's, no?

MattR 2004-09-20 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry
I. which is why MattR's on the M2's, no?

Yeah, the M3's sold out by October last year! I hope they're not gone already. As far as I know, the M2 is being discontinued, so there may not be a lot of options there.

However, like mike said, his Pirelli's are pretty sweet too, I'd run all three with no problems. (Blizzaks, M3's, Pirelli 210)...all very capable.

Nick Koan 2004-09-20 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperry
I don't think *any* snow tires will be on "closeout" until say next April. And by then they're out of stock (and have been out of stock since December). Especially the M3's... those things sell out in larger sizes by November... which is why MattR's on the M2's, no?

Actually, the 175/65/15 & 255/45/17 are on closeout, and the 205/55/16 are a "special"

Hmm, can anyone here run 255s?

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes....inter+Sport+M2

sperry 2004-09-20 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by nKoan
Quote:

Originally Posted by sperry
I don't think *any* snow tires will be on "closeout" until say next April. And by then they're out of stock (and have been out of stock since December). Especially the M3's... those things sell out in larger sizes by November... which is why MattR's on the M2's, no?

Actually, the 175/65/15 & 255/45/17 are on closeout, and the 205/55/16 are a "special"

Hmm, can anyone here run 255s?

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes....inter+Sport+M2

Well, 205/55-16 is the perfect size for OEM impreza wheels! Get some of those Nick!

Nick Koan 2004-09-20 02:59 PM

They are also kinda perfect for the rims I already have, without plopping down the money for your wheels :twisted:

Can you fit 255s on the SVX?

sperry 2004-09-20 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by nKoan
They are also kinda perfect for the rims I already have, without plopping down the money for your wheels :twisted:

Can you fit 255s on the SVX?

I might be able to (it might require some minor fender rolling), but why would I want snow tires that goddamned wide!? :shock: :lol:

Narrow > wide when it comes to driving in snow. Plus they're cheaper, and get better fuel mileage.

Nick Koan 2004-09-20 03:34 PM

Yeah, I know. I just think it'd be ... comical, to have winter tires so wide.

MikeSTI 2004-09-21 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by nKoan
Yeah, I know. I just think it'd be ... comical, to have winter tires so wide.

so what you want Scott to be your personal joke boy? Big Pimp'in 255's :lol:

JoelK 2004-10-18 01:59 PM

I've been debating between the M3s and Nokian WRs. It seems to me that the WRs will have 2-3x the treadlife and better (possibly quite a bit better) dry traction. The one thing I'm unsure of is what the exact difference between the two tires would be in the snow. I will probably drive about 7000 miles before I remove the tires in April/May and if I'm only going to get one season out of the M3s, then I'll go with the WRs.

Any thoughts?

MattR 2004-10-18 03:12 PM

I have one full season on my m2's and they show little sign of wear...You'll get way more that one season out of the M3's/

BOO 2004-10-18 03:39 PM

Re: Winter Sport M3's...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MattR
Best snow tire for the $$...very fairly priced...at Tire rack.. Wish I had the m3's.

Dunlops Winter Sport M3

Wow, Nice tread(m3) .. very agresive..

doubleurx 2004-10-18 03:44 PM

I just got the M3's from tirerack. They're going on my Rota Torques. I think they changed to a much softer compound than the M2's which would explain the better ice capability. They are noticeably softer than my old M2's were.

Snow is on it's way tonight. Were expecting over a foot in Truckee by Wednesday. Pretty crazy! Tonight I'm changing tires on the wife's car and the STI. I'll try and get some snow pics to charge you all up for the ski season! (just around the corner)

MikeSTI 2004-10-19 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by doubleurx
I just got the M3's from tirerack. They're going on my Rota Torques. I think they changed to a much softer compound than the M2's which would explain the better ice capability. They are noticeably softer than my old M2's were.

Snow is on it's way tonight. Were expecting over a foot in Truckee by Wednesday. Pretty crazy! Tonight I'm changing tires on the wife's car and the STI. I'll try and get some snow pics to charge you all up for the ski season! (just around the corner)

did you get new Rota's with the lager lug pattern? same as the old ones or new color?

doubleurx 2004-10-19 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeSTI
Quote:

Originally Posted by doubleurx
I just got the M3's from tirerack. They're going on my Rota Torques. I think they changed to a much softer compound than the M2's which would explain the better ice capability. They are noticeably softer than my old M2's were.

Snow is on it's way tonight. Were expecting over a foot in Truckee by Wednesday. Pretty crazy! Tonight I'm changing tires on the wife's car and the STI. I'll try and get some snow pics to charge you all up for the ski season! (just around the corner)

did you get new Rota's with the lager lug pattern? same as the old ones or new color?

New lug pattern, Same wheel and color as before: Rota Torque 17x8 in bronze.

MikeSTI 2004-10-19 12:04 PM

sweet! :D 8)

JoelK 2004-10-20 08:46 AM

No comments on the Nokian WRs? Does anyone have experience with them?

How do the M3s handle in the dry? I figure 95% of my winter miles this year are going to be in the dry or rain. That and the increased treadlife were the primary reasons I was looking at the WRs. Next year, I'm hoping to be back in Colorado, and depending where I end up, I could do a lot more driving in the snow. That's one of the reasons that if the M3s are still great after 7000 miles or so, then I might go there anyway. Ahh, choices.

MattR 2004-10-20 09:04 AM

Sorry, I've never owned a pair of Nokians, I've heard great things about them though. The Dunlop tread life appears to be great on the M2's, but Nick said that his M2's had a much harder feeling compound than the new M3's, which means the M3's may have a shorter mileage life. I don;t think it's going to be so short that they only last one winter.

Also, Dean just bought a pair of Hancook 300 Snows..I'm very intereted to see how they look and perform. They are $100 a tire or thereabouts, so that might be another option to consider.


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