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Dean 2005-02-18 08:57 AM

Ultimate car for "away" events
 
Now I know I want an Elise...

AEROCAR 2000

sti deede 2005-02-18 09:01 AM

wow! That's pretty crazy.

dknv 2005-02-18 09:04 AM

Whoa. It sounds technologically feasible.
The projected empty weight of AEROCAR 2000 is 2580 lbs. Add the pilot, fuel, baggage, passenger, the gross weight comes up to 3450 lbs. With 350 horsepower available for take off, it should have excellent acceleration, climb and cruise speed.
Only thing is, he forgot to mention a parachute. :shock:

Where is our rocket scientist's opinion?

Dean 2005-02-18 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by dknv
Only thing is, he forgot to mention a parachute. :shock:

No worries, it's got airbags...

You could land at Hawthorne. Lovelock, or Winemucca and run the course without detaching the wings...

Wings and a second engine would be legal in Street Mod 2. :lol:

AtomicLabMonkey 2005-02-18 09:26 AM

Geez.. I would have a hard time trusting the reliability of a Lotus turbo V8 for a flight application. :shock:

BOO 2005-02-18 09:30 AM

Funny .. It kind of looks like the Elise has some WRX(STOCK) wheels (Almost).. lol


Ok, Ok I know this has nothing to do with the thread but Thought I would point that out .. lol

qksubi 2005-02-18 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by dknv
Only thing is, he forgot to mention a parachute. :shock:

No worries, it's got airbags...

You could land at Hawthorne. Lovelock, or Winemucca and run the course without detaching the wings...

Wings and a second engine would be legal in Street Mod 2. :lol:

I protest those wings the down force is unfair advantage :twisted: :lol: :P

AtomicLabMonkey 2005-02-18 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by qksubi
I protest those wings the down force is unfair advantage :twisted: :lol: :P

Except they generate lift, not downforce. :lol:

qksubi 2005-02-18 10:31 AM

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I protest those wings the down force is unfair advantage :twisted: :lol: :P

Except they generate lift, not downforce. :lol:

I know he is always talking shit about my wing so I thought throw somthing at him about the wing :twisted:

MikeK 2005-02-18 10:53 AM

If you could get 4 feet off the ground you could just go straight from the start to the finish, forget about going around the cones, just go over them! You would just need something hanging down to trip the start and finish lights :twisted:

BOO 2005-02-18 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by qksubi
I protest those wings the down force is unfair advantage :twisted: :lol: :P

Except they generate lift, not downforce. :lol:

I know he is always talking shit about my wing so I thought throw somthing at him about the wing :twisted:

Well Atleast they have moved on from "MY WING" To yours.. lol
Ps: The wing on the Jetta That is :P

MikeSTI 2005-02-18 12:05 PM

ummm is it just me or in plane mode you have no windows :shock: :shock: :alien:

MattR 2005-02-18 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeSTI
ummm is it just me or in plane mode you have no windows :shock: :shock: :alien:

Real men don;t need windows on their planes...Charles Lindbergh...

http://www.aeromuseum.org/Education/...berghWWII1.jpg

MikeSTI 2005-02-18 12:10 PM

yah well I would like too see where I'm going :lol:

and I'm not talking about open air I'm talking about the cover on the Lotus :lol:

Dean 2005-02-18 03:27 PM

I think it is a mock up, so they don't want you to see the 2x4s etc. holding up the prop section... :)

sperry 2005-02-18 09:06 PM

The windows are covered with a standard cover that you see on all planes parked outside.

khail19 2005-02-18 09:12 PM

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The windows are covered with a standard cover that you see on all planes parked outside.

Is your avatar covered with one?

Weasel 22 2005-02-19 08:35 AM

I would worry about the cars ground clearance..picking a low slung little bullet like the Elise seems to promote a 'perfect landing' or else..just bringing it in perfectly level would require some mad skillz' ..just the slightest wind gust or change in pitch would basically scrap the poor car..and why not add a Esprit to the lineup so some rich bastard can have his very own 'Flying Loti'..Jeeves! fetch me my wings! im taking the Lotus out 'over' the countryside..raaa yesss ::places monocule in eye

Dean 2005-02-19 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Weasel 22
I would worry about the cars ground clearance..picking a low slung little bullet like the Elise seems to promote a 'perfect landing' or else..just bringing it in perfectly level would require some mad skillz' ..just the slightest wind gust or change in pitch would basically scrap the poor car..

Huh? There is plenty of rear clearance for landing even with a slightly agresive flare. It looks like you would actually drag the tail of the wing section before the rear of the car. The sides are a non-issue, only if you land nose first is there an issue, and you have big problems in any plane landing nose first...

Weasel 22 2005-02-19 02:38 PM

true...however its principal design is that of the ill-fated AVE Mizar..anyways I was doing more of a joking manner about it, as most of the replies have been...the AVE Mizar sported the detachable airframe and used a Pinto :lol: the trouble with using a car even a very light car, is that they are already heavier than comparable airframes..it is quite easy to exceed take off weight with passengers and fuel...looks like they took this into account this time around..a crew of one and several hundred pounds to spare for fuel etc. I am amused at the use of Lotus related parts and engines as opposed to more proven aircraft engines...and more to the point I wouldnt want a detachable airframe on a projected 160 mph+ capable aircraft..take the AVE Mizar..on test flight it seperated..pilot, passenger and the poor pinto all perished...but technology has come a long ways since 73'..im eager to see it proven

Dean 2005-02-19 03:55 PM

No big deal.. Wasn't trying to call you out, just trying to understand what you meant.

I agree the weight of the car is a big issue, but that is probably why they couldn't use a typical "light" aircraft powerplant, it isn't a light aircraft. I don't know what else is out there, but they probably had to find something along the power plant lines of a 6-10 passenger plane, and most of those are twins. I bet the Lotus V-8 is a light weight aluminum design, and may be the lightest way they coud generate 350HP that could pass FAA Cert. I just don't know what is out there for aircraft engines in that HP range.

As you say, positive attachment is the key. I assume they have over engineered that. I guess you could use one of those balistic parachutes they have now. :lol:

Weasel 22 2005-02-19 04:25 PM

heh no sweat at all..afterall they would not have engineered it for the Elise and then wondered if it would 'work'..and having a balistic parachute installed would make me feel better about flying one..as if I could :lol:


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