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Ezdno 2006-09-19 07:45 PM

Seat Removal
 
So before I dive in to the removal of the front seat to replace or repair the slide rail. Is there anyone who has done it, will I need to do anything about the airbags? :?:

MPREZIV 2006-09-19 07:48 PM

do you even have airbags in the side of the seat? I don't think so dude... just unbolt the 4 seat bolts, and pull that bitch out!

Ezdno 2006-09-19 07:52 PM

Well since I am unsure of the lil label that says, srs on the seat and I dont have a cool lil cd manual, that was my first plan. but I would rather be sure. Anyone have a cool lil cd manual?

tysonK 2006-09-19 07:54 PM

There is a plug that is yellow under the seat clearly visible that you have to unlock. Then take out the 4 mounting bolts and the seat is out.

MPREZIV 2006-09-19 08:21 PM

I stand corrected!! If that label is on there, Tyson is right. You'll have to disconnect a yellow colored airbag harness connector on the bottom of the seat. Best to disconnect the battery first tho. You don't want to plug that connector back in with the batt still hooked up. Possible airbag module/controller failure... they say they can go BOOM, but I've never seen one. Still, why chance it:D

Ezdno 2006-09-19 08:31 PM

See, now this is why I ask the people that know....I have a severe allergy to "boom"

Bob Danger 2006-09-19 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MPREZIV
Possible airbag module/controller failure... they say they can go BOOM, but I've never seen one.

Righteous

sybir 2006-09-19 10:07 PM

Good luck pulling the airbag connectore withthe seat still bolted down. It's got a failsafe that makes it a PITA to detach when you can clearly see it, let alone buried under the seat.

There's a green tab that has to slide forward, then a tab in back that actually has to come up in order to detach the bag connector. Sometimes it takes 2 seconds, sometimes you cusre at the thing for 20 minutes.

Good luck :D

cody 2006-09-19 10:48 PM

Yah, that connector sucks! Also, it's easy to scratch your interior with the mounting flanges. Take it out carefully.

Dean 2006-09-20 03:24 AM

I'd unbolt the seat first so you can tilt it and have better access to the connector.

Also, make sure the car is off, key out of the ignition. I don't recall if the shop manual suggests removing the positive battery lead or not. You might check the shop manual anyway as it probably says how to do it...

It would also tell you how to tighten your rear wing. :P

MPREZIV 2006-09-20 06:32 AM

^^ standard operating procedure for airbag removal is to disconnect the batt on ALL cars. This is what they teach at least!

Kevin M 2006-09-20 07:14 AM

Yeah, but isn't there a capacitor backup for the airbag system anyway?

doubleurx 2006-09-20 08:24 AM

Definately unbolt the seat first. Sybir is correct about that plug. It is a major PIA to undo, even with the seat unbolted.

JC 2006-09-20 05:37 PM

Just cut it, unplugging is for pussies. Who needs airbags anyway?

Ezdno 2006-09-20 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JC
Just cut it, unplugging is for pussies. Who needs airbags anyway?


If it was just me, I could see this...but since its a grocery getter with several kids attached I better find the plug.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEAN
It would also tell you how to tighten your rear wing

Yea Yea!

Still no word on a cd manual yet?

cody 2006-09-20 09:25 PM

http://ken-gilbert.com/wrx/impreza_manuals.htm

http://ken-gilbert.com/wrx/STi_Manua...%20Spoiler.pdf

Ezdno 2006-09-20 09:31 PM

hahaha thanks Cody

cody 2006-09-20 09:32 PM

;)

MPREZIV 2006-09-21 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BAN SUVS
Yeah, but isn't there a capacitor backup for the airbag system anyway?

There is, but the way it works is that it only holds a charge for a limited amount of time, and then automatically discharges. If it were a permanent charge, there would *never* be a "safe" time to work on an SRS system, as it would always be active!! :eek: The capacitor backup is simply in case you get into an accident that doesn't set off the airbags, but DOES disconnect/destroy the battery, and then you get hit AGAIN in the same incident; the airbags will still work if needed. This system only holds charge for a minute or two in an average car tho, so you can actually perform work on the SRS if need be.

khail19 2006-09-21 12:41 PM

Which is why you should step on the brake pedal a few times after disconnecting the battery, make sure all the electricity is out of the system. I've taken my steering wheel off a few times and never had a problem with the airbag, but I always disconnect the battery first.

sperry 2006-09-21 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by khail19
Which is why you should step on the brake pedal a few times after disconnecting the battery, make sure all the electricity is out of the system. I've taken my steering wheel off a few times and never had a problem with the airbag, but I always disconnect the battery first.

If the SRS capasitor was wired such that stepping on the brake pedal w/ a disconnected battery discharged the cap, it would be a terribly designed system. I'd suggest doing what Cory does... disconnect the ground on the battery and wait 20 minutes.

khail19 2006-09-21 12:51 PM

Yeah I do that, then step on the brake pedal for good measure. I know it probably doesn't do anything, but I read it somewhere a long time ago and have been doing it ever since.

sperry 2006-09-21 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by khail19
Yeah I do that, then step on the brake pedal for good measure. I know it probably doesn't do anything, but I read it somewhere a long time ago and have been doing it ever since.

I think the brake pedal trick is good for ensuring the ECU resets.

tysonK 2006-09-21 02:28 PM

Um, when I took my seats out I just took them out. I did no battery disconnecting. I guess I should have. Better safe then fucked.

I remember that fateful night, before the norpac convention, I know scott and matt do also.

MPREZIV 2006-09-21 02:57 PM

Yeah, you could probably yank them out and plug them back in a *million* times and NEVER have anything bad happen, but the fact that there's a POSSIBILITY of deployment frankly scares the shit out of me...

BOOM = unhappy Black Cory... :lol:


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