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Dean 2007-07-14 09:31 PM

Anybody use an eBay Sniper?
 
Anybody use an eBay sniper they are happy with? Tried BayGenie free addition and it sucks.

Free is good, but interested in anything that bloody works.

sperry 2007-07-14 09:31 PM

eBay sucks.

ScottyS 2007-07-14 09:41 PM

I do it manually.

tysonK 2007-07-14 10:09 PM

I don't even know what this thread is about.

Dean 2007-07-14 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottyS (Post 101410)
I do it manually.

So do I normally, but I won't be near a PC tomorrow, and don't have an iPhone... :)

I'm trying GixenFree on-line service. Got good reviews.

Dean 2007-07-14 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperry (Post 101407)
eBay sucks.

I think somebody needs a nap... Gets a bit snippy when his car doesn't cooperate don't he... Seriously, sorry your clutch is acting weird.

Dean 2007-07-14 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tysonK (Post 101417)
I don't even know what this thread is about.

Sniping is bidding in the last few seconds of an on-line auction.

tysonK 2007-07-14 10:30 PM

Just buy it now and show those fuckers who they are dealing with!

wrxkidid 2007-07-14 10:56 PM

+1

knucklesplitter 2007-07-15 06:40 AM

I haven't used a sniper since like 2000. It's just not as effective anymore. Ebay's proxy bidding system minimizes the advantage of sniping and people have finally figured it out. Used to be fun though - used to get nasty emails from people who got beat by.01$ in the last 10 seconds of an auction.

I guess I'm saying I wouldn't bother.

Dean 2007-07-15 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tysonK (Post 101425)
Just buy it now and show those fuckers who they are dealing with!

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrxkidid (Post 101428)
+1

Um, you can only do that if there is a BIN option... Duh...

And proxy bidding is for pussies who can't handle the pressure of sniping. :P
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knucklesplitter 2007-07-15 06:57 AM

I bought my STI on Ebay using a proxy bid. Imagine the look on my face when I got that email saying "Congratulations, you've won" a $28,000 item that I didn't think I had a chance on. "Shit, better call the bank".

Dean 2007-07-15 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knucklesplitter (Post 101440)
I bought my STI on Ebay using a proxy bid. Imagine the look on my face when I got that email saying "Congratulations, you've won" a $28,000 item that I didn't think I had a chance on. "Shit, better call the bank".

I was just giving you crap. :) But, maybe if you had sniped it, you would have only paid $27,982. :)

100_Percent_Juice 2007-07-15 07:56 AM

I didn't even know such a program was around. I guess I have just always believed in honor and virtue and winning all my auctions with the stinging precision of the surgeon who did your fathers vasectomy shortly after you were born.

sperry 2007-07-15 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean (Post 101422)
I think somebody needs a nap... Gets a bit snippy when his car doesn't cooperate don't he... Seriously, sorry your clutch is acting weird.

Has nothing to do with my mood... eBay does in fact suck. What's the point of a bidding system where everyone can enter the maximum amount they're willing to pay, then get all pissed off that someone else was willing to pay 1 cent more, to the point where people are using software to bid for them?

eBay should let you bid once for an item, and that's that. People then actually bid the max they're willing to pay.

But eBay would still suck, because people on eBay suck and eBay's policies suck. You'd still get ripped off with people selling misrepresented crap, or over charged for shipping, and you'd still be without any recourse because eBay and PayPal have no transaction guarantee or decent conflict resolution system.

But I didn't want to derail the thread too far, so I posted the short version of this post: "eBay sucks".

100_Percent_Juice 2007-07-15 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperry (Post 101456)
What's the point of a bidding system where everyone can enter the maximum amount they're willing to pay, then get all pissed off that someone else was willing to pay 1 cent more...
eBay should let you bid once for an item, and that's that. People then actually bid the max they're willing to pay.

Have you ever been to a real life auction? People bid back and forth until someone is willing to pay more then the other person. Thats the whole point.

GC8.Love 2007-07-15 04:55 PM

I used to get pissed when people would outbid me by sniping. And yes, it was always within $1.00 of my max if not even less. :mad:

And it was on rare stuff that I'd actually bid my all on.

So I started manually sniping.

I use Auction Sniper now. I just wish your lead time could be less than 3 seconds prior to the close. I get outsniped once in awhile.

GC8.Love 2007-07-15 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperry (Post 101456)
What's the point of a bidding system where everyone can enter the maximum amount they're willing to pay, then get all pissed off that someone else was willing to pay 1 cent more, to the point where people are using software to bid for them?


Well, I think the pissiness comes from the "1 cent more." Who wouldn't really wanna pay up to a certain amount extra to win whatever it is they have to have, most of the time?

$100 more? Well, eff that, depending on what it is..

People will be as cheap as they can, either way.

But when it comes to rare stuff (good for me, being materialistic), it does get me when I actually bid what something's worth or over (because I'm willing to pay) only to get shot down by a piece of ei... I mean a penny.

knucklesplitter 2007-07-15 05:53 PM

Hint of the day: If you are willing to pay... say $100 for something, then bid $101.01 . Anybody willing to pay $100 would pay an extra buck and this will help foil the snipers. Of course I would bid $101.11 and get it, but...

I sell (and buy) a lot of stuff on ebay - 400+ transactions, and I've had very few problems over the last 9 years doing it.

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAP...me=STRK:ME:UFS

MPREZIV 2007-07-15 06:19 PM

If it don't say "buy it now" on it, I ain't buying it. Simplifies things...

100_Percent_Juice 2007-07-15 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MPREZIV (Post 101466)
If it don't say "buy it now" on it, I ain't buying it. Simplifies things...

+1

Dean 2007-07-15 07:56 PM

Thanks all for the responses. Gixen did what I want, and despite my normal propensity for quibbling with Scott, I do not have the energy.

I like eBay and have had largely positive experiences with it and will continue to use it.

Where else can you get a really cool commercial grade peak holding multimeter for under $30. I need an oscilloscope too, but haven't researched enough to know what I should get.

I even used the correct to, two, too to keep Scott happy. :)

JonnydaJibba 2007-07-16 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean (Post 101423)
Sniping is bidding in the last few seconds of an on-line auction.

Yeah and it's annoying as fuck for the people who are trying to buy stuff without breaking the rules.

Dean 2007-07-16 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonnydaJibba (Post 101535)
Yeah and it's annoying as fuck for the people who are trying to buy stuff without breaking the rules.

What rules does it break? If you get outbid at the last moment and would have paid more, then you didn't really put in your maximum bid now did you? Next you will say calculators break the slide rules... Push button phones are an unfair advantage at winning radio contests? Speed Dial is right out... OK, those are probably before most everyone's time.

If you want to win a real auction, you have to be the last bidder. To win an timed auction, only have to have the highest bid submitted any time before the deadline. It is your choice as to when you bid. If you choose to play your hand early, all the better for me.

There are auctions that extend by 5-10 minutes when new high bids are made at the end, but those are not very common.

sperry 2007-07-16 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean (Post 101541)
What rules does it break? If you get outbid at the last moment and would have paid more, then you didn't really put in your maximum bid now did you? Next you will say calculators break the slide rules... Push button phones are an unfair advantage at winning radio contests? Speed Dial is right out... OK, those are probably before most everyone's time.

If you want to win a real auction, you have to be the last bidder. To win an timed auction, only have to have the highest bid submitted any time before the deadline. It is your choice as to when you bid. If you choose to play your hand early, all the better for me.

There are auctions that extend by 5-10 minutes when new high bids are made at the end, but those are not very common.

But most timed proxy auctions don't allow people to resubmit bids over and over, nor do they publish the current high bid as people submit their bids.

You put in one bid, and that's your maximum. When the time limit is up, you find out who was willing to pay the most, and it should award the item to the highest bidder by one dollar (or penny, or whatever the min bid unit is) over the 2nd highest bid.

But again, the bidding rules for eBay are the least of their problems... eBay and PayPal should have to have all the same security measures and resolution procedures as other stores, banks and credit card companies, or they should be non-profit. You can't treat your customers with the "all we do is provide people with a service that allows them to meet each other" and take a cut of the transactions as profit. It was that attitude that put Napster out of business.


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