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Old 2007-07-04, 09:46 PM   #10
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All good points. This is why I was looking for the discussion.

Of course, it's tough to know for sure what I'll prefer without actually doing it. My experience with coilovers was pretty poor due to my inability to get them set up properly, but it definitely showed me that simply minimizing roll would not make my car handle like a dream. That's not to say I discount the value of reducing roll - I'm just thinking about taking a shot at fixing a few other aspects of the car's suspension before I stiffen it up.

I know this will sound silly, but I've been screwing around with my STi in Forza 2 and while I can dial various amounts of understeer, snap oversteer, throttle oversteer, etc, the one thing that's a bitch to find is actual turn-in grip. No amount of spring rate, damping, and sway bar adjustments will counteract the game's insistence that Imprezas just understeer at turn-in by default. It got me thinking, and that's why I researched these upgrades for my RS.

I think it's just a matter of how I decide to set priorities. My concern is that I'll go with a sway bar upgrade and decide that I still want the extra turn-in that the geometry kits provide, but then do those only to find that they don't really match my sway bar choices. I'm leaning towards improving the geometry first, and then adding sway bars based on how the car handles at that point. . . after all, I can choose sway bar sizes to fine-tune, but these kits are pretty much on-off, one size fits all. It may not matter, but given that I'll probably do both eventually anyway, I'd hate to find out the hard way.

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too many people mistakenly want to view it as a quick-n-easy suspension upgrade that will magically cure your understeer.
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Originally Posted by Dean
In this instance, I would say they are a "band aid" as they are not actually directly addressing the primary issue which is roll.
Touche. Well played, sir - exactly why I'm posting here instead of just reading NASIOC and going out to buy.

And I am not an idiot, but I cannot say truthfully that there has never been evidence to the contrary.
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