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Originally Posted by A1337STI
Hey sybir,
how about you learn how to read, or use the Search in page, I never said there was no risk. Go back and search word for word in this entire thread. Where did you get the idea that I wrote there was no risk at all?
I wrote the risk of suspension damage is roughly the same as the squaw event. Is that where? where's the reading comprehension ?
Its the same danger as AutoCross. Though I've unfortunately seen one person hit at an Autocross. and seen video of a 3 car crash at an autocross. I've never seen anyone personally injured at a Rally Cross, and i pray to god it stays that way.
A little good natured Poking fun at me is one thing.
All out hatred and slander of a sport you don't like is something different (and apparently what everyone here wants)
How about Scott or who ever just Deletes the "rallycross" sub title of the Motor sports category, since clearly this Car Club is Anti-RallyX
Basically i'm just calling everyone out as being a Rally Cross Haters at this point  (although there is no need to do that, as its beyond obvious) no one besides me & Ansel (to my knowledge) has been to one (or won a trophy in a rallyX Series) and yet everyone is talking about roll overs, and extreme danger. Showing pics of a Track off @ over 100 mph.
I think the best thing about RallyX is the RallyX Crowd. you could tell them that you Circle Race, Drag Race or spec Ford Race. and if they aren't into it the responses are generally "Not my cup of Tea, but i'm happy that you are into something you are passionate about, I hope you have good luck and enjoy it"
Where as here, well , all of your posts speak for themselves! 
Ya Haters! (at least i get some amusement out of all this ) |
Unbunch your panties man.
First, mentioning the downsides to rallycross is not slander. It's true: cars generally take a bigger beating off road rallycrossing than they do on tarmac at autocross. You keep mentioning Squaw, but fail to realize that we've run Squaw
once in the last 10 years, and most of us won't go back until the repaving is done
because it's too harsh. It's also true that a car on stiff tarmac coilovers will get beat up even more than a car on proper suspension for the sport. When I went to the SCCA's rallycross administrator's conference during the NORPAC convention years back in an effort to learn how to put on these events, we were warned: cars roll over a lot when compared to autocross. We were told that we'd need a tow vehicle to turn cars (well usually SUVs) back over, and a water truck to keep the course's dust down and prep the surface.
Nobody hates rallycross, most of us have simply already made significant investments in going fast on tarmac that effectively exclude us from the sport. In fact to the contrary, MattR and I
four years ago tried to get a permanent rallycross course build at Reno-Fernely Raceway. We talked with the track owner, toured the facility, and discussed what it would take to level their ATV course into a proper venue for cars. End result: the track wanted a ton of manpower to clear the rocks off the course that prevent it from being friendly to street cars... and at that time, it was just me and Matt interested in rally. So it got dropped. To be frank, Matt and I did more for rallycross in Reno than anyone else has. The problem is at the time there were 2 people interested: me and Matt. Four years later and the interest level is still the same... there are still 2 people interested: you and Ansel, but I don't see you guys attending planning classes, locating sites, looking for support, etc.
Don't act all high and mighty 'cause you've been to 10 whole rallycross events... it's not that impressive, especially considering the level of competition at those events (when was the last time you had 5 people within a second in one class?). It's not all that spectacular to people that race 25 events a season, and have been doing so for years. I've never rallycrossed because when I wanted to, there was no program within 200 miles of Reno, and our attempts to start our own program ran into lack of support to pull it off. Since then, most of us have moved on towards tarmac competition meaning we're just not all that interested in rally... we're not "haters", just disinterested.
But if your attitude is at all representative of the attitude of people at rallycrosses towards autocrossers, I'm going to guess you're likely driving people away from your sport. When you show up to autocrosses, do people talk shit to you about racing on dirt? I've never seen an autocrosser look down on a rallycrosser, yet you seem to have some superiority complex, as if racing a Subaru on anything but dirt is "less" than what you do. Here's a news flash: Subarus aren't the end-all of rally cars... with the exception of the pathetic Rally America series (where the STi just outclasses about everything else) the WRX is a crappy rally car. They get beat up regularly in the WRC. Meanwhile, the STI is *the* car for production SCCA Touring 2, it and the EVO mop up at autocross, and it's also extremely successful at time attack. And if it were legal for Grand Am Cup, or World Challenge, it'd be cleaning up there too. While the platform came from rally, it's way more successful these days on tarmac. Your high horse is standing on only 3 legs, you should be careful.
And on a side note: Sybir's actually worked for rally teams both prepping and supporting the cars. I think he might know a little bit about what happens to equipment that's raced off road.