[dayofpain]

nope, ill say it again.

dont need a tune. cant stress it enough.

you CAN get a tune after removing enough weight from the dam car. or perhaps changing the spark plugs or a pulley.

the subaru computer is an amazing piece of work, it can and will adapt to quite alot and most people dont give it near enough credit.

and btw from what i understand the reason that the aps is so unique is because it flows EXACTLY like the stock box, meaning that changing the air fuel mix isnt required.

the reason it gains power is because it pulls different temperature air (which is easily measured and compensated for by the stock ecm). or at least thats what i read when it first came out in 2001.

people are way to quick to say "go get tuned" at every single piece of crap they throw on their car. its sickening that SOME tuners have brainwashed the entire community into thinking that.

im not saying im perfect but i got all of two pro tunes EVER, and i had a ton of parts come on and off my car. im sure i was missing out on a whole 5-6 hp for whole months at a time. sucks for me i guess.