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Old 2007-12-06, 10:53 AM   #29
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I'm actually pretty disappointed. Mostly because there are a ton of street tire drivers (I'm looking at you SECCS) that weren't represented at the meeting.
Not only that, but also, many who didn't take time to fill out & send in a ballot. Nevertheless, for those who did not vote, and if you were going to vote for Dean, he still won so no harm no foul.

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I think the SCCA is getting man-handled by the minority of louder race tire folks, and competition will suffer because of it. While I understand their point that integrated street tire classes reduces the "purity" of racing under the SCCA national rules, and while I understand that providing a national-like environment is crucial to helping the development of national level drivers from our region, I think in general it's a disservice to the majority of members as we are reducing overall competition to coddle those that are making the effort to show up to the meetings and be heard.
I'm still trying to understand how competition is going to suffer, and how this will reduce overall competition. It seems like there will still be fast drivers in ST classes and fast drivers in RT classes.

For me, I see the street tire handicap as not fair. 1) I don't see there being one factor that applies across the board to every class; (and it can go both ways, there are probably instances where the factor is too much for certain cars or classes, and others where it is too lenient). 2) I don't see a way to determine a factor based on controlled testing even, because there will always be variances among cars and setup, tires/condition, course, driver, weather, temperature, how much gas is in the tank, etc etc etc (to use a Dean-ism ). Even if we could come close, there will still always be the suspicion that something influenced the outcome, leading to "the factor is flawed' mentality. And because of this, we end up taking away some of that element of 'fairness' in competition, and then the fun starts to go away too.

So - I keep wondering why it's not more understandable when race tire or national-prep car drivers see the street tire pax as a take-away, a penalty to them, and why it is considered that asking for a split seems like coddling to others. And why is the split of street tires into its own class being perceived as a take-away for street tire drivers. At least we are still incorporating street tires in Reno region, some regions don't do anything extra for them. (Not sure if LV is still that way, but they used to be.)
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