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Originally Posted by Dean
I did not read the entire thread, only the post originally referenced on PA.
He clearly thinks these controllers and gaming systems would be good for creating music and that there will be some broad demand for the output.
He goes on to claim.Compared to just about any real instrument, this is a ridiculously small number of states as I have previously enumerated. I am not going to post the quote where he claims instrument aren't engineered again.
To make a Tuba sound, you haven't needed a tuba for ages... The game controller hasn't changed the way people think about instrument shapes, the synthesizer did in 1876, or 1970 (depending on your definitions) and sequencers and MIDI controllers and the modern computer have taken it well beyond!!! Hell, pipe organs make some amazing sounds not limited by the piano shaped keyboard they use. The guy is just ignorant to think that his generation is magically going to free us from the confines of "crass physical laws". It's already been done centuries ago.
And to end with he thinks he is bloody George Washinton or one of the George Bushs with his closingHe clearly has never heard of the '60s....  I don't care how sarcastic this site is in general, I can only judge the post I read and he clearly knows not of what he speaks.
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Go ahead and continue to inject your opinion in between the lines of what other people say. Or try again and point out exactly where PA claims that a game controller is a good musical instrument. I see where they say the idea of using a game for music creation is fascinating. I see where they say the controllers are limited, and where they say better software could make them more useable, and where the number of input states is high enough to make it possible for music generation (after all, 5 buttons is 24 more states than a trumpet's 3 valves, nevermind that the guitar controller actually has 13 buttons, two analog levers, and a motion sensor). And I see where they talk about using a simplified instrument and the internet to make it easier for music to be created and published by the average joe rather than requiring either years of training on a traditional instrument, or tens of thousands of dollars in technical gizmos that you keep touting as the "right" way to make music with computers, and rendering groups like RIAA and record labels unnecessary, thus the "democratization of music".
But nowhere do I see a claim that video games should or will supplant old fashioned or more advanced technology in the creation of music. Or a claim that they are somehow better or more ideal than existing methods. All I see is a claim that they could be used as such.
Clearly you have a problem w/ video games (I mean, look at this useless, unnecessary, disaster of a thread you created to spew your opinions on the subject). You think games somehow supplant their non-virtual counterparts in the minds of those that play them. You're wrong. Just as email hasn't supplanted using the phone, video games do not supplant the activity they emulate. They're fun in their own right, and in some ways they can even enhance the real activity. You don't seem to get that, and in your pomposity you project your own opinions over what's actually being said by others and continue to argue when no one is actually being contrary to what you're saying. No one is disagreeing with your claim that a video game controller isn't the ideal for next generation musical instruments... but you'd rather argue about it anyway by twisting someone else's words, and if that doesn't work you'll argue about what they meant instead, when clearly the claim you insist is being made, isn't being made at all.
And by the way, the guys that write PA are closer to your age than these theoretical kids you contend are being fattened by video games. If you ever bothered to follow the comic strip, you'd know they understand exactly the problems that video games create in society, and they do a terrific job at mocking the people that take gaming way too seriously, as well as the people like yourself that are too far removed from the subject to have an informed opinion about it.