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Originally Posted by Dean
Gosh, it speeds up the flame front and promotes more complete combustion? Imagine that...  See Post #14... |
Sure, you said that... but the place selling it does not. They said it runs off "extra" electricity from the alternator.
Clearly the place selling the thing doesn't know how it works and can't even prove that it does. It's still a scammer device that merely makes your on-board trip computer read a higher mpg and is likely to cause problems in the long run.
As far as the flame front theory... IMO there's no chemistry that's making hydrogen a benefit... perhaps there's a physical effect that makes it work, but I haven't seen anything that's not a dumbed down explanation like the grass fire analogy in that PDF. So while there's one place putting out at least a plausible explanation and admitting that the power for electrolysis is basically a 100% loss, they're still not providing access to independent research that explains the process. So it's either a much better scam than the other places, or it's just that untested. Either way, I wouldn't want it in my car.
Put it like this:
The Subaru SVX uses an intake resonance system called IRIS in order to improve the intake efficiency at certain RPMs thus allowing the motor to make more power/torque without having to go to forced induction. The system probably cost Subaru a bunch of R&D time and money to develop and ensure that it was reliable over the life of the motor, which is one reason why the SVX cost over $30,000 in 1992, yet only makes a modest improvement over a normal intake track.
The Turbonator is an aftermarket device that's supposed to do a similar job by swirling the air in the intake thus allowing it to fill more air into the cylinders as well as mix the fuel better for more efficient burn. It's supposed to work on every car out there and make relatively huge gains for simple $10 device.
You tell me which one is the scam.
Now look at the difference between the HFI system that only claims a 10% gain out of what looks like an expensive system specifically designed for large diesel engines vs. the mason's jar crap that purports 80%+ better fuel efficiency on any vehicle running off 1 liter of water every 3000-4000 miles. It's a scam.