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Originally Posted by ZER026D
I know that there still a spring over strut design but you are crazy to think that stock wrx struts can even be compared to some Tein's. My friend has STI struts and STI springs on 18 inch P1's with Neogen tires. I still catch up to him in the corners on stock tires with Tein's we were both amazed with the performance of the Tein's. He is now selling his set up to get what I have. Not only that I have gone to the Autox out here I have seen the Cobb car go not the cone basher there 2.5rs. I can tell you from watching josh from Cobb drive and seeing the car sway. My other friend with Tein's is smoking the Cobb car there is a hole lot of play in the Cobb car witch has a better set up than Nate is doing.  no :shock:
PS If I see nate beet one of the cobb cars with his setup I will think off saying its is good but I would not put my money in a suspension system that is not as good as teins. Oh one more thing even Phil the kid I dont like said my coilovers were better than his and he said they felt stiffer but at the same time smooth.
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There are a great many assumptions in this post. First off, Neogens aren't good tires. Second, I'm pretty sure Michael Schumaker on RE92s can outrun me on RA1s, so your suspension comparison is meaningless. Drivers affect things more than anyone else. Teins are not *that* high quality. They are not inverted struts, and they just plain aren't *that* good. No better than, say, KYB AGX. That's not to say Teins are junk, but they aren't the top of the line. Japanese stuff that is better than average quality is typically prohibitively expensive. Most importantly, you are bashing a person and product you have never seen, nor do you know anything about it outside of 2 anecdotal posts in this thread. Sybir's setup uses stock struts because that's what he was willing to pay for. Nate's personal setup, and mine as well once I decide to improve upon my PRODRIVE suspension, consists of Bilstein strut inserts with GC coilover sleeves. Nate's suspensions are custom jobs, done to the specs of the customer. Don't judge things you don't know about. When you see what Nate's little Impreza does on the track firsthand, I think you'll be a lot less inclined to criticise.