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Originally Posted by IheartSTI
well i knew this post in the thread was coming. It has nothing to do with really having to have it. i could get away with spending $500 on an accusump kit and it would be that little extra insurance. I dont build my car to race and do events all the time. I enjoy the build and making something the best i can. The things i have learned from jumping into a project are not replacable. I think this is something that would be an awsome project to do. I know most of you would find it impractacle or would rather spend money elsewhere but thats not me. and also if i wanted a thread asking if i really need it i would have had a thread titled "do i need a drysump" thanks for your concern but lets keep this thread on point
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My point is, if you're building this simple to learn as you suggest you are, you're not going to learn anything if you're not actually using the system. For example, you build the system but for some reason it actually only oils at half the volume of the stock setup. Well, if you're not pushing the car, you may never notice that your expensive learning project actually works worse than the factory setup, in which case you learned nothing useful about building a dry sump setup. If you were to apply your experience on a car that actually needs a dry sump, you may actually end up hurting the car.
Similarly, from the perspective of Matt and Ray who are attempting to develop a dry sump for actual use, your setup lends them nothing outside of perhaps some basic fitment testing.
But the most important reason why asking "why do you need a dry sump?" is a valid question is that it's the absolute most important thing to know when it comes to designing and building the system. A dry sump on a drag car is potentially different from the setup on a rally car or the setup on an endurance car. The location and size of the oil reservoir, the shape of the pan, the location of the pump, the size of the lines and fittings, the use of the stock pump, etc, etc, etc should be tailored to the way the system is being used. Are you sumping the car because you're fighting lateral G oil starvation, or are you doing it to reduce parasitic loss on the bottom end? What sort of oil pressure/flow does your motor need? Asking what you're trying to do is the first and most obvious question to ask, so don't get your panties in a bunch because you think I'm trying to derail your thread.
So, now that you've stated your "race car" isn't actually going to be raced, I think answering your initial request for some tips is easy: get an off the shelf kit. Any dry sump is going to be unnecessary on your car, and you won't be evaluating a custom designed system for performance, so get something that someone else has designed and tested, whether it be the Cosworth setup or waiting for Matt and Ray to build and evaluate their design. If you're just looking for eye candy and a learning experience w/ the setup/install of the system, off the shelf is going to be by far the easiest and most reliable setup.
My experience w/ oil setup is that it's never as simple as just picking out the parts you want and plugging them all together... the parts all have to work well together and evaluated as a whole system. Things like hose diameter, length, fittings, etc all play a part in the overall performance. If you can't litter your setup with oil pressure gauges to check all the components during testing, you probably shouldn't be trying to come up with something new. I've gone that route and killed my motor more than once.