[Dean]

Originally Posted by Nick Koan

There you go:

http://www.amazon.com/Officemate-Sta...3861813&sr=8-1

Personally, I can't say I agree with you though. I like shorts that end right above the knee. And they are usually fine for athletic endeavors as long as the crotch is not sagging too much.

Huh? I think that means you do agree. The ones I am trying to replace end right above my kneecap.

I just don't like the ones that are 5 inches longer ending well below the knee. I probably should have left "mid" off my description and just stuck with lower thigh above the knee.

Part of the problem is that I have short legs. 30" inseam. So with an appropriate amount of crotch clearance, 7" or so of inseam = top of kneecap.