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Originally Posted by sperry
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Science requires zero faith. Anyone that "has faith in science" plainly doesn't understand what science is. Science requires zero faith because the whole point of science is that any claims made via the scientific method are backed by evidence. Anyone is free to question a theory, examine the evidence and make their own conclusions. That's the whole point. If you don't believe in evolution, how about where's your evidence to the contrary? I see hds attempting to make some stuff up, but pretty much everything he's posted as "evidence" is basically the exact opposite of what the real theory of evolution is about.
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You are correct...if science was performed the way it was intended to be. However, it is no longer that way now. Real science is based on things in the natural world that can be observed directly and tested in a lab environment...anything beyond that progresss into something that involves more philosophy than science. Evolution theory has done that. The big bang cannot be observed or tested, therefore belief that it happened falls into the category of faith. Macro-evolution cannot be observed nor tested in the lab...same thing as before....not true science, but faith if you believe it happened. You said that anyone is free to question a theory..true in principle, but not quite true in practice. Questioning evolution theory will likely get you fired from a teaching position, even if you are NOT a creationist. I personally do not believe in evolution, and not just because of my religious beliefs. As I mentioned before, the realworld data (evidence) that I OBSERVED (a scientific process) made me understand that evolution and a millions of years old earth couldn't work. I have no grant money riding on that asessment, so I am free to express it. I DO have plenty of "evidence" to put some serious doubts on evolution, and I have mentioned a few points on here. If you'd like to hear more, I'm happy to oblige.
Now, to something a bit more serious...Scott, you have now accused me of "making stuff up". Please indulge me with a list of the things I have "attempted" to make up and be ready to back up your accusations. Accusing me of this is the same thing as calling me a liar. You may not agree with what I have to say, but don't go accusing me of this unless you have some proof. I gave some geologic information and a few things on genetics...where in that did I make anything up?