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rory_a · 2010-10-06, 11:42 AM

"Work on his next innovation, called Rockers, is also being done. They are molded shoulders on a tire's sidewall that only come in contact with the ground during cornering for improved performance and stability"

If I understand that right, his next big thing is a semblance of over-inflated tires?

The Camber Tire concept seems like it would work for cars with lots of negative camber - run lots of negative with a tire that has positive so that with body/tire roll in turn you get a net of larger contact patch. But, if the intention of additional negative camber for Subarus is to increase contact patch when loading up in a turn, wouldn't this be counterproductive? It's basically allowing you to run less camber considering the amount of camber built into the tire. But that means that when you optimize the camber curve of the suspension, your net between static suspension camber and static tire camber is well outside of the optimum for the car's characteristics, no?

So maybe this is a decent concept for the "HellaFlush" croud? Where's the GTI/18x10" Subaru guys for input?????

I can see this being of great benefit for a dumped swing-axle car with 4+* of negative rear camber - you end up with a decent contact patch when running the tires opposite of what they were intended (inside out). Then again, that would be limited to dumped pre-'67 Volkswagens, and I've yet to meet an owner of a dumped swing-axle Volkswagen that gave a sh*t about handling.

2010-10-06, 11:42 AM	#3
rory_a EJ251 Real Name: Rory Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 607 Car: Miata, shit. Class: Out Classed NOW WITH 100% LESS STI!	"Work on his next innovation, called Rockers, is also being done. They are molded shoulders on a tire's sidewall that only come in contact with the ground during cornering for improved performance and stability" If I understand that right, his next big thing is a semblance of over-inflated tires? The Camber Tire concept seems like it would work for cars with lots of negative camber - run lots of negative with a tire that has positive so that with body/tire roll in turn you get a net of larger contact patch. But, if the intention of additional negative camber for Subarus is to increase contact patch when loading up in a turn, wouldn't this be counterproductive? It's basically allowing you to run less camber considering the amount of camber built into the tire. But that means that when you optimize the camber curve of the suspension, your net between static suspension camber and static tire camber is well outside of the optimum for the car's characteristics, no? So maybe this is a decent concept for the "HellaFlush" croud? Where's the GTI/18x10" Subaru guys for input????? I can see this being of great benefit for a dumped swing-axle car with 4+* of negative rear camber - you end up with a decent contact patch when running the tires opposite of what they were intended (inside out). Then again, that would be limited to dumped pre-'67 Volkswagens, and I've yet to meet an owner of a dumped swing-axle Volkswagen that gave a sh*t about handling.