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Old 2011-08-11, 12:57 PM   #3
sperry
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Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata
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Originally Posted by A1337STI View Post
I might be willing to let someone Race Betsy , if there is actually anyone in the club interested in driving a subaru , in the dirt...

Kevin? Cory? Scott ? (would you fit?) hehe

also remember I've rally crossed my STI for years, never broke anything, and have Won PAX overall, and had over a half dozen pax podiums last season, and was leading pax briefly .

point in case, rally crossing your car won't ruin your car for autocross (at least in a stock-ish trim) or for getting groceries, if its a DD type car.
I'm out of town for my nephew's birthday, so even if I wanted to come, I can't make it.

Also, I'm not really interested in driving in the dirt. I prefer the track, regardless of the potential for damage to my (or your, for that matter) car. And it isn't even really the dirt that I dislike... it's the standing around all day for ~10 minutes of racing that I don't like when compared to PDX where I get around 3 hours on track between my car and my student's car as an instructor. It's the same reason I don't autocross these days either.

And just because rally-x won't "ruin" your car doesn't mean it leaves it untouched. I've seen your STi... it's hammered! If you have just one single scratch on it from rally-x, that's likely one scratch too many for some of the folks in the region. People are hesitant just because they're worried they'll completely destroy their car... they also worry about the little cosmetic damage that can occur from sliding around in the gravel/sand.

We've had this conversation a bunch of times before, and I always feel like you think I hate rally. The truth is, I really do hope the Reno rally-x program succeeds... I'm just pointing out why it's fighting an uphill battle. The people that autocross and track days attract (our existing members) are simply not the same people that rally attracts. Rally folks are their own breed that are more like ham radio operators and camping/outdoors enthusiasts than they are motorheads. In fact, the same point can be made about autocross and track. When the track program started up, we really had to twist arms to get autocrossers out there, and even today there are very few people that do both... people have generally picked one or the other, and most the people out at the track are *new* members that started participating specifically because of the track program and not the autocrossers that we convinced to come out and PDX.

Similarly, we're not seeing a big rally-x turnout because rally isn't offering anything to existing members they feel like they're missing, and we're not properly advertizing to new folks that would be interested. Rally here isn't going to grow unless we start bringing in new people that are specifically interested in rally-x. There's no sense in chiding existing members for not showing up... after all, they're already spending their money and volunteering their time to participate in our other programs!
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