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Originally Posted by Kostamojen
712s suck donkey snowballs
Skip them and go straight for the MX's I say
They work the same in the wet/snow, have about the same stiffness of sidewall, but the MX is infinitly stickier and actually amazingly longer lasting.
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245/45WR17 Ecsta MX: $127 / tire
245/45WR17 Supra 712: $90 / tire
That $150 saved could be spent on something else if you don't care that much about which street tire you're using.