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Originally Posted by sperry
I'm not actually suggesting they're just making something up, but there is something to be said about independant testing... which is exactly what you're doing. My point is that the vendor of a product is going to spin what they can in their favor. And a lot of places will go to the very edge of fraud, and a few will even go blatenly over the line... even the "big" guys, since there's a very good chance no one will ever be able to call them on it.
What I'm saying is that the results you found are very interesting, and I'm convinced that the grounding kits do actually do something, I'm just not sure exactly what that something translates to in the real world. Ohms and Amps are great and all, but will I be faster because of them?
On an aside regarding that graph... I guarentee that's not a real dyno chart. That's something the marketing people drew up to match their dyno results. Real charts are never that pretty or that smooth. Plus there's no associated data like the dyno used, the other mods on the car, the test conditions, etc. It may not be fraudulent, but it's certainly not useful test data. What if the car they tested that on had the A/C removed, or some other battery, or other various mods... hell, is the car even an Impreza? What if those are the results of that kit on a turbo'd Integra?
I'm not trying to be a NASIOC asshole or anything, I'm just trying to call it as it is... you've got real data taken under what I'd consider to be sme pretty good testing conditions that show these grounding kits do make a difference... and we've got some pretty good speculation that a car re-tuned for the more accurate grounding should run at least smoother, if not faster as well. All I'm saying is that we're still missing the complete circle: real world results. Not a big deal, as those will come with time.
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yeah i used to have an attitude similar that if it cant be proven then i dont want anything to do with it. i think im getting either trusting in my old age, or i am just getting complacent with the fact that a company making an extra 100 bucks on me isnt worth the bankruptcy. and that everyone isnt out to get me.
even though most of them are...
yeah for sure it isnt a real dyno graph, but it has been illustrated to represent one. therefore there probably is one, somewhere. also if you use the link and just click on pictures as there are very few english subtitles, you see that graph marked as impreza gdb.