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Old 2005-09-02, 08:01 PM   #17
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So JC, you're telling me you'd gladly sit around in squalor, with people dying due to a lack of help because those that are supposed to be helping you told you to? You're going to let children get raped because you don't want to look like some "security guard".

I'm fully aware there are tens of thousands of people there, and the trouble makers are by far the minority. Which is why I ask how are they getting away with rape!? You'd think if there are 20,000 people, and 100 rapists, there's gotta be atleast enough good people there that are strong enough to stop the crime, right? But apparently it's far more productive to sit and chant "we want help" instead.

And my plan to get out of the city isn't the one for those 20,000 people at the superdome. That's what I would have done instead of going to the useless evacuation point. I'd grab my family and get outta town anyway I could.

It may sound like a contradiction, but it's actually not. In a better world, all those people at the superdome would be doing more to make their situation better. In reality, they're not. At least, that's what's being portrayed on CNN. Since no one there seems to want to take charge, since no one there seems to want to work together, fuck 'em... I'm out. There aren't enough people willing to try in the crowd for my help to make a difference. Why should I risk my life and my families to stay amongst them? I wasn't arguing that I would be some vigilante saviour superhero, I'm arguing that this crowd of people isn't willing to stand up for itself. It can't be all invalids and children peppered with murderes and rapists? There should be a large contingency of useful, able people... yet that's not what seems to be the case. Where are the heros? When flight 93 was hijacked, people fought back... where are the people like that in New Orleans? Did they all make it to higher ground?

The bottom line is this: the cavalry didn't come through in a timely manner, and the people left behind are incapable of helping themselves. In that situation, I at least try to save myself and my family.

You seem to think those people were doing all that they could by sitting around chanting for help, letting rapes and murders occur in the crowd. How about this, how much less could they be doing to survive?

Of course, I could be totally off base. All I know about this situation is what the media portrays. I have no real base to make my judgement on. I do know that the stories I've heard from this tragedy are chilling... you didn't hear anything like this in the CA earthquakes, or during the 9/11 coverage. There was no widespread anarchy after the multitudes of Florida hurricanes. What's different about the people in this disaster that has allowed this situation to degrade so poorly? Is it because most of the people there are poor and/or uneducated? Are they just stupid? Perhaps that's the problem, the people that stayed are too stupid to leave, which also makes them too stupid to try to survive. I wonder how they survived before the hurricane.</sarcasm>
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