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Old 2005-09-02, 09:30 PM   #22
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Originally Posted by JC
Too stupid to leave? Where did you want them to go and how would they get there? They trusted the government to do their job and take care of it's citizens. How is that their fault? All they are trying to do is survive long enough to rebuild a life that has been completely destroyed. Now not only do they have to fight dehydration, heat, starvation, disease, and criminals but holier than thou assholes like you who insult them and kick them when they are down. You wonder where all the heros are? Maybe they are telling all the dying children they are too stupid to survive. You must be proud of yourself Scott.
Alright, I'm way too tired to repeat myself. However, before you call me an asshole, you should FUCKING READ MY POST.

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Jesus.

And yes, the government has totally dropped the ball on this. It took 5 days before relief started to arrive... they certainly should and could have started mobilizing before the storm hit and had supplies on the way as soon as the weather was clear enough for it to be safe. They could have stocked the superdome with food and water for 30,000 people and perhaps even a bunch of chemical toilets in case, say, maybe the plumbing stopped working. I certainly don't blame the people in New Orleans for being totally fucked out of resources that should have been available to them.

What I'm am saying is that they don't really seem to want to survive. They want someone else to provide for them. They're not chanting "we need help" which is what I would expect to hear from desperate people that have exhausted all their resources, I hear them chanting "we want help", the type of thing that people who expect to be taken care of would say. A minor difference perhaps, but I think it's a significant bit of insight into the mentality of the people there.

This was a thread about the general laziness of Americans. About people's inability to see to care about anything except getting shit for themselves with the minimum amount of work. I though the choice of words used by those stranded in NOLA to be an interesting example pertinent to the discussion. People so used to being provided for that even in an extreme, life threatening situation, don't want to try to take responsibility for their own survival. They see the system they rely on failing them, and the best they can do is complain. Hell if they rioted, at least they'd be doing something for themselves.

And before you choose to insult me some more, yes, that's hyperbole.

And since this argument is only descending into personal attacks (which I'm a little surprised about) I'm backing out of it. I'd rather not get into a discussion of welfare and the plight of the poor, because then I'll just have to suggest that poor people eat their babies or something, because that's totally the reasonable type of thing that I'd endorse, you know, while I'm kicking flood victims and starving children.
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