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Originally Posted by Dean
Um, while cost is listed, it has nothing to do with the data I am refering to. You can debate their "overall score", but thier data IMHO is above reproach. Thier scientific method has held up to intense scrutiny for years. Since they have no vested interest in the products they review, I would hold their results above an industry test such as TireRack...
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CR may be considered the de facto standard for reviews, but their data are hardly "above reproach". Unless those tires were tested day after day for months on end, across every possible condition, while sticking to the strictest recording methods, the data presented is still based on one or two particular testing sessions, and can't
empirically demonstrate which tire is better than the other. Remember, testing is *always* an attempt to extrapolate long term facts from short term examples. Sometimes the data lies, no matter how well gathered it is.
...'course you haven't even linked us to the testing procedure, or data, so it's even easier to despute the data, since within the context of this conversation it's simply your word that the data supports your conclusions.
That said, I would be surprised if there weren't winter tires out there that school my M3's in the snow and ice. The M3 is designed to be a competant snow tire without completely giving up dry performance and a high speed rating; it's a snow tire for sports cars. Which is exactly in line with my needs, something allow me to drive November-February regardless of conditions, which for me means maybe 2 weeks of actual snow on the street, the rest of the time it's just cold and perhaps wet.
IMO, if you want the "ultimate" in snow/ice performance, get studded tires. Hell, make your own
...but seriously, if absolute snow and ice performance is the goal, and dry handling is of zero concern, how come you're not looking at studded tires?