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Originally Posted by sperry
IIRC tires like the Kuhmo V712 are technically M+S, but you'd be a retard to think it's a capable snow tire.
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The V712 wasn't M+S, the V711 was supposed to be the M+S variant of the same tread design but with a lower temperature compound. They still sucked in the snow, so they dropped the M+S rating a few years ago.
And I've driven in a snow storm with the 712's. It sucked, but I made it home. I would never do it again, and I only did it cause I got caught in a snow storm.