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Originally Posted by cody
Let's not go there. Please try to see my point. You are welcome to disagree with that, but I'm not here to discuss road tuning vs dyno tuning.
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I didn't think I was missing your point. You said that is seems wrong for someone to have to pay for a full retune when they're just getting their car tweaked for a new mod. You cited that it took 4 hours for you to get your initial tune, and only an hour for a tweak.
I'm telling you that 4 hours is too long for a single map on a car with your mods. It's not like you're were getting multiple fuel or boost maps, it's not like your car has any bits on it that most tuners haven't tuned for a 100 times. 5 hours to get it right is about 4 hours too long. Not having the convience of a dyno is part of the additional time, but I'm gonna guess the biggest delay was simply a lack of experience, which isn't a knock on Ed as everyone has to start at some point, just as long as he's not charging by the hour for you to let him learn on your car.
Anyway, a tune on a mildly modified car takes about an hour. A tweak later on also takes about an hour, since the tasks are exatcly the same. Remember, most tuners already have base maps made for 99% of the common mods out there, so the only difference between a tweak and a full tune is whether they can start with the map on the car, or the map on their PC.