[Dean]

I feel compeled to respond as this digresses into Ed/Street tuning bashing...

Scott, you have previously claimed or even bragged that your car in it's last incarnation spent an entire day on the dyno at Easy Street. To then turn around and claim that "I'm telling you that 4 hours is too long for a single map on a car with your mods" and is "is a waste of time" is somewhat hypocritical IMHO...

Getting the base maps as accurate as possible is a significant advantage over relying on the ECU to learn how to adjust. You say the conditions will never be the same, but many will. The relatioship between the MAS, O2 sensors, injectors, and other sensors is not likely to significantly change. Yes, the specifc environment might, but much of what you are tuning for is matching all these items for a given set of conditions. RPM, Boost, etc. Relying on knock, and other sensors and ECU learning to tune your car is crap.

I am not claiming to be an expert, but from just my first few months of just collecting data and learning about Street tuner, I know how many values there are to tune, and that most of what you are doing is making the different components inputs/outputs jive with each other. Barometric, and temperature tables are barely involved.

We also have imperical evidence to back this up... Mikes car on a Q&D Nate tune ran like crap. More time and energy at Gruppe-S, and it ran like a charm... Hmmmm.

Lets just all get along... How about a round of I'd like to teach the world to sing...

On a related note..

In my opinion, it would have been extremely professional if Nate had provided his past customers with electronic, or paper coppies of their Maps prior to moving on, but alas, that is not the case. I wonder what happened to his copy of the ECUTek software and ProTuner... Aaron... Is that PC still around that we could get our maps?