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Originally Posted by sperry
I'm simply arguing that spending a really long time on the fine details doesn't seem to be a productive use of time.
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And I disagree with your assertion, and am attempting to provide at least a logical explanation to exemplify my point. It is not my intent to argue, only discuss. While my percentages may not be accurate, the principal is, and I did not exaggerate the number of individual entries in just the maps ST has access to, it is hundreds.
The devil is in the details. Yes, you can create even have on hand good ballpark maps for a given set of mods, the AP is a perfect example of that, but that doesn't make it a custom tune for your specific car/mods/driving style, etc.
How long did Mike K. and Eric's Gruppe S. tunes take? Unless I am mistaken, over an hour each, with a on-site visit on at least Eric's required. Mike K's WRX had some real issues on a 1 hour tune. Nate apparently figured those out later perhaps if he had spent more time on Mike's tune he could have figured them out then.
There is my data/evidence. Can you provide data do back your assertions? Or perhaps as first hand empirical evidence, you should volunteer your car, and only have a maximum of 1 hour worth of tuning done on it. Or is it already well past that number?