I went out RMR (rocky mountain raceway) and there was a guy with a Cobb stage 3 block, APS SR50 turbo, APS tranny, AccessECU, Cusco headers, PDE uppipe, PDE downpipe, AVO catback, AVO topmount and BOV, and lots of other stuff with lots of Cobb dyno time. The guy only ran a 13.5 I was like WTF no way so I think that meens I wont be going to Cobb.