Again, Many thanks !! And Wow, so all while staying in Street Prepared i can change out my headers, up pipe, and add a TBE all with no Cats. (from what i've read on IWSTI i would have turbo creep) which would basically mean i'de have no turbo lag at all. which is a bigger advantage then being able to port the OE wastetage and not run around with boost creep. (i could maybe get the boost creep tuned around, or run with 1 Cat and not kill mother nature ) course i don't have money for any of that yet but just doing some planning , and it sounds like just starting off with an Access port and a Tune is a better route then headers/ exhuast