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Speedtoy · 2006-05-05, 11:10 AM

Heya guys..thought I would check in since one of your members has come to me with braking issues, and I have a few thoughts.

Not to be rude towards any particular vendor, but Axxis, EBC, and Ferodo have fallen out of grace with the racers I talk to, a few old-school people still use Ferodo, but only if they can find a supply of their older (better) compounds. Axxis and EBC are just mistakes waiting to happen in a race environment. HPDE is a different matter, but you'll eventually either get to that criticla speed (5mph can make all the diff in the world) or you'll try something different and go "Ohhh..thats what you mean..".

Right now -the- hot pad on the market is the Raybestos ST41 and ST43 pads. Relatively low dust (who cares, its a race pad), and the rotor wear is well, not bad at all, once you consder that these carry a solid .7 friction coefficient, or higher. These are a no-excuses, no holds barred high energy pad. On an ABS equipped car I would go ST41 up front, and ST43 in the rear. 41s are too grippy for rear use, and without ABS you would want ST43 in front as well..less likely to stab at the brake and flat spot tires that way.

You can read friction:temperature charts here:

http://www.speedtoys.biz/datasheets/datasheets-all.pdf its 10Mb..proof quality when I go to the printers for shows, apologies for the size, but most of the relevant PF, PFC, Hawk, and Raybestos data is in that packet.

Theyre also way cheaper than the Hawk and PFC choices.

ST41/43 fronts for an STi are: $235
ST-43 for the rear of an STi are: $125

Those are the club prices for those, margins are very thin, as theyre priced to complete strongly already.

For any Porterfield/Hawk/PFC purchases in the store, please use this code at checkout for your 20% club discount on pads only.

cpn-seccs

ANY questions, find me at orders@speedtoys.com, or at http://www.speedtoys.com and the store will let you Email me as well. If you dont find it..-ask-..we'll add it immediately.

You Race It, We Brake It

2006-05-05, 11:10 AM	#37
Speedtoy n00b Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 22 Car: 05 baja Turbo 5spd Class: Yellow Bus	Heya guys..thought I would check in since one of your members has come to me with braking issues, and I have a few thoughts. Not to be rude towards any particular vendor, but Axxis, EBC, and Ferodo have fallen out of grace with the racers I talk to, a few old-school people still use Ferodo, but only if they can find a supply of their older (better) compounds. Axxis and EBC are just mistakes waiting to happen in a race environment. HPDE is a different matter, but you'll eventually either get to that criticla speed (5mph can make all the diff in the world) or you'll try something different and go "Ohhh..thats what you mean..". Right now -the- hot pad on the market is the Raybestos ST41 and ST43 pads. Relatively low dust (who cares, its a race pad), and the rotor wear is well, not bad at all, once you consder that these carry a solid .7 friction coefficient, or higher. These are a no-excuses, no holds barred high energy pad. On an ABS equipped car I would go ST41 up front, and ST43 in the rear. 41s are too grippy for rear use, and without ABS you would want ST43 in front as well..less likely to stab at the brake and flat spot tires that way. You can read friction:temperature charts here: http://www.speedtoys.biz/datasheets/datasheets-all.pdf its 10Mb..proof quality when I go to the printers for shows, apologies for the size, but most of the relevant PF, PFC, Hawk, and Raybestos data is in that packet. Theyre also way cheaper than the Hawk and PFC choices. ST41/43 fronts for an STi are: $235 ST-43 for the rear of an STi are: $125 Those are the club prices for those, margins are very thin, as theyre priced to complete strongly already. For any Porterfield/Hawk/PFC purchases in the store, please use this code at checkout for your 20% club discount on pads only. cpn-seccs ANY questions, find me at orders@speedtoys.com, or at http://www.speedtoys.com and the store will let you Email me as well. If you dont find it..-ask-..we'll add it immediately. You Race It, We Brake It __________________ --- You Race It, We Brake It! Performance street and race brake discounter..just ask!