Myles' first post after installing production RCE springs on his STi
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Originally Posted by sperry
Plus it's not height or camber adjustable. People aren't flocking because people that want aftermarket stuff usually want to be able to adjust it properly.
Besides, I'd rather pay $1400-1500 for *new* suspension, than $1200 for *used* struts with who know how many/how hard miles on 'em, and then still have to buy springs.
Also, Tein's are great right out of the box. Eric put Flex's on his '06 last year, I co-drove it on the factory settings, and won over-all PAX. My Tein SuperRace coilovers set to the factory heights was actually dead on corner-balanced on the scales... didn't have to adjust a thing. Dan can get a set of Flex's and just bolt 'em on, get a basic alignment, and go. Then later if there are changes he'd like to make to the settings, they're right there for him to play with.
As far as Ohlin's duribility and reliability... I don't see Dan punishing these things like a rally driver (not that I've every heard of a set of Tein's "wearing out"). Plus both companies will rebuild the dampers, and I'd bet Tein's a bit cheaper for the rebuild than Ohlins.
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Dan doesn't need adjustment- he will be perfectly able to get a proper street alignment with stock tophats, stock perches, and springs that lower the car about an inch. The used vs. new debate comes down to personal opinion basically. I bought my Prodrive suspension with 2 years of use on them, and I got another 75k with no decrease in performance. No reason not to expect the same from almost physically identical struts from another premium manufacturer. You are putting too much emphasis on track/autocross performance for someone who will not do either. I'm certainly not claiming that a fixed spring/strut combo is better or worse than Tein Flex as far as lap times. But if it were my STi that was a daily driver and not used for competition driving, I wouldn't care about height adjustment as long as I had properly matched springs and damping. What else matters on a street car?
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Originally Posted by Dean
Except for the number of other reasons like, they don't come with top mounts, and they aren't height adjustable, etc...
I am as frugal as they come, and like deals on used stuff, but I wouldn't buy the Ohlins. inverted Monos as we already know from the stockers are typically not ideal daily driver struts, and they will most likely make noise eventually which is one of Dan's complaints.
Tein Flexs are a good streetable daily driver option with a proven track record.
If you want to go cheap, get a set of the no-names that Jeramiah or others have gotten for about $1000. Grouppe-S had them last I knew.
EDIT: Damn, Scott and I must be channeling each other today, he just types faster than I do...
Give up Kevin... When is the last time Scott and I agreed on something like this to this level of detail? You can't win.  |
So what if they don't come with tophats? Last time I checked you got a set when you bought the car, and the specific set for sale in the nasioc classified includes Group N front tops. You also suggest he should avoid inverted monotubes because of noise, then suggest he get pillowball camber plates...
Again, I'm not arguing against Flexes as astreetable option. Everybody knows they work fine. Like Scott, you're putting too much stock in what will be a better autocross setup when that is not one of Dan's considerations. In terms of ride comfort, and confidence when beating the car on backroads, I can't see any downside to the Ohlin/RCE combo for that purpose, can you? Aside from the fact that you didn't suggest it yourself?
